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George
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I heard somewhere that NASA scientists have looked at a star just after it had gone supernova.

I also recall that i read somewhere that the acient Egyptians (and other cililizations of course) witnessed a supernova and it was like it was day time for about a week or something, anyway they didn't get killed by massive amounts of radiation.

P.S. please please please someone correct me if im wrong.

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Got this from http://nix.nasa.gov Just search for supernova

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Supernova stars explode about every 200-300 years in our Galaxy, but some explosions are not to be seen, because the is wholly covered by dark nebulas. Sometimes it is easier to observe supernova stars in distant galaxies, since they can double galaxy`s brightness- but there are too many galaxies to spot every of them.

Another thing: the radiation is not dangerous since the distant is really great. The supernova 1987A was not so bright (but to be seen without instruments) and the distance to the dying star was about 137,000 LY.

All right now, it`s enough. Does anybody know, what happened in the Capella system? Huh?

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There's only one problem with Capella supernoving. Capella (or Alpha Cephi) is supposed to be our pole star in about 8,000 years. Oh no! The Earth without a pole star what are we going to do!?

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2,000 years from now the pole star will be Gamma Cephi, then 8,000 years Alpha Cephi, then beyond that we have Alpha Lyri which is better known as Vega. Another fact is if Vega didn't move, the solar system would run into it in 500,000 years. Ouch!

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Um, Alpha Cephi is Alderamin. Capella is Alpha Aurigae.

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Since this is the capella supernova thread I thought I would ask a question that no one has yet answered.

What the hell happened at capella.

Now I know that there will be no FS3 (so they have told us) but couldn't someone find out from the story writers or something, what was the shivan motive behind the destruction of the star or what were they're ideas for FS3.

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with the fact that it has been said that there would be no fs3, but remember people things have a habit of changing i remember some time ago (6 months of less) hearing that there would be no theif 3 and now look, it's on the drawing board same as deus ex 2! just keep up the hope that the v team would have to plan something in their spare time between creating kickass games i just hope one of them would be the next evolution in the freespace series

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Does everybody remember on the jump node maps it shows all of the known jump nodes, both stable and unstable. It also shows a few going off the map saying there are more but doesn't show any systems and it doesn't say it's unstable. I'll try to find a pic

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Does everybody remember on the jump node maps it shows all of the known jump nodes, both stable and unstable. It also shows a few going off the map saying there are more but doesn't show any systems and it doesn't say it's unstable. I'll try to find a pic


I doubt there's any need for a pic; I think we all pretty much remember the node map by heart.

Those off-map nodes are not mentioned anywhere in any canon source, but Warzone/Derelict have expanded maps. As far as I can tell, they are there simply for possible future expansions to the FS universe.

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Since the 14 year war started not too long after the Terrans and Vasudans met each other it's safe to say that there probably wasn't much budget on either side for exploration, hence the unexplained node paths.

Almost 5 decades of war and reconstruction, exploration isn't too high on the agenda.

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Does any one know what kind of effect a supernova would have on communications? I mean if a little 'ol solar flare can disrupt wireless phones and shut down orbital stuff, imagine how bad a supernova would f-up nearby systems.

And what about the gravitational effects of the loss of a star? Could it screw with the jump nodes or something like that?

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I think it would generate a massive emp thay would travel to any solar system close to it, it might disrupt every electrical system in space (not on a planet which has atmosphere). they would however have several years to prepare for it though

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Yeah, in space where no on.... *ZOT* ..... damn mic's out so is everything else for that matter. oh well, even though no one can hear me out here i might as well give it my best shot, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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lets look at it this way gentleman. in a nuclear explosion, the harmfule radiation shockwave gets there before the visible light shockwave which gets there before the physical shockwave.

also, our planets van allen belts, magnetic feilds, and atmosphere protect us from a standard g type star sitting a mere 8 light minutes away. what do you think a supernova 137000 light years away sending all of its force in a 360 by 360 degree (thats spherical for all you do not remember descent ) explosion is going to do to someone standing there looking up!?!

don't forget, that what we see isn't even 1 tenths of one percent of the total of that explosion.

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Yeah, what we see in the picture is only an echo of what was,
a mere ghost of what happened a long while ago.

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also, when ever we actually see a supernova, we are seeing whats left of the visible light shockwave hitting our planet, a couple of days or weeks before we see it, there will be a couple of nutrino colisions recorded in the various nutrino detectors scattered around the planet.

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Where's Vasuda? Is there actually a star named Vasuda, or is it a product of Volition's collective overactive imagination?

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If what you stated was actually the case, we would've been dead eons ago. Supernovas occur quite frequently in the universe. We've witnessed several here on Earth in the past. In fact one or two of those was close enough and large enough to light the sky at night. (Think of the panic and chaos it created to those unenlightened dark age folks back then )



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Yeah, the last supernova to be visible from Earth was the Dorado supernova, in 1987. It was 160,000 light years away.

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Heh, I didn't think of that. You're right... :-/

Oh well... Though it would have been cool to be stationed on a ship in, say, Deneb, and getting rocked with the supernova's blast.



I'm not sure the shockwave could even reach that far...... I was under the impression that Capella was a similar type of star to SOl, and that's supernove would only expand to 'bout Jupiter, before contracting.

Not an astrophysicist, so I could be wrong.

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Actually, what everyone overlooked is that Capella is a binary star system. The stars are class G2 and G6 giants.

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