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Black Wolf
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Registered: Aug 2001
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Dear God Please No!

quote:
From the BWO Website
In terms of content, the demo features:

Four action packed missions
Bobboau's GVI Cairo station plus tweaked ship stats
You play the character of Aidan Mallory in a character driven plot
Experience a set of prequel events that set things in motion for the main plot
Fully voice recorded missions


Forgive me if you've mentioned this before, but please tell me that the main campaign wont be character based. Please.

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Black Wolf
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Western Australia
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Dear God Please No!

quote:
From the BWO Website
In terms of content, the demo features:

Four action packed missions
Bobboau's GVI Cairo station plus tweaked ship stats
You play the character of Aidan Mallory in a character driven plot
Experience a set of prequel events that set things in motion for the main plot
Fully voice recorded missions


Forgive me if you've mentioned this before, but please tell me that the main campaign wont be character based. Please.

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"What you egg" Macbeth Act IV, Scene II, line 80
"Young fry of Treachery" Macbeth Act IV, Scene II, line 81
[url=www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/]Neo Terra Victorious - Bet you didn't see that one coming.[/url]

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Hudzy
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Registered: Oct 2001
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What's wrong with that?

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What's wrong with that?

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Yeah. It really doesn't change much... Easier to build story with good charters and sometimes makes campaign much better.

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Yeah. It really doesn't change much... Easier to build story with good charters and sometimes makes campaign much better.

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Main campaign is character based....always has been. I always thought that the best part of Derelict was that your wingman had a character...and we've upped the ante with that.

BWO would be entirely pointless without the player being a character.

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Main campaign is character based....always has been. I always thought that the best part of Derelict was that your wingman had a character...and we've upped the ante with that.

BWO would be entirely pointless without the player being a character.

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I love playing another character. It's easy to fall into the universe when you take on a different persona. I always thought that was FS's biggest problem. I like it, and I can wait to play the demo. Hey, speaking of characters, will Mackie be back? or is it top secret?

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I love playing another character. It's easy to fall into the universe when you take on a different persona. I always thought that was FS's biggest problem. I like it, and I can wait to play the demo. Hey, speaking of characters, will Mackie be back? or is it top secret?

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Well playing the role of a character doesn't bother me although I did kind of like FS's approach to not making you be someone. Best character I've played as in any game goes to Garret in Thief's I and II.

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Well playing the role of a character doesn't bother me although I did kind of like FS's approach to not making you be someone. Best character I've played as in any game goes to Garret in Thief's I and II.

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ya, you have ... history ... with ... other people ...
I don't think it changes things too much

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ya, you have ... history ... with ... other people ...
I don't think it changes things too much

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It's probably just personal prejudice, but I hate character based storylines. FS2 was designed to be an impersonal game, you can't interact with your wingmates, or send messages to them, or affect the mission in any ways other than completing or failing to complete your mission objectives. I just don't think that that's the sort of situation where player characters are practical. I have no problem with NPCs, in fact I like them. But what I really liked about FS2 was the fact that Alpha 1 was just that, Alpha 1, a faceless, nameless player that everyone could relate to in the same way - not at all. It sort of made the player more like the character. I haven't really said this too well. Ah well. Just me I suppose .

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It's probably just personal prejudice, but I hate character based storylines. FS2 was designed to be an impersonal game, you can't interact with your wingmates, or send messages to them, or affect the mission in any ways other than completing or failing to complete your mission objectives. I just don't think that that's the sort of situation where player characters are practical. I have no problem with NPCs, in fact I like them. But what I really liked about FS2 was the fact that Alpha 1 was just that, Alpha 1, a faceless, nameless player that everyone could relate to in the same way - not at all. It sort of made the player more like the character. I haven't really said this too well. Ah well. Just me I suppose .

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no, actualy I was oposed to it too, but I think it is beeing well implemented

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It seems like a fun Idea...

But now you won't be trampled in the mud as harshly as in FSI & II...You thought you got it made in FSI, and then the Shivans came around.

In FSII you got beamcannons and then you met milady Ravana.
The Colossus arrives and you fel all-powerful
And then it is taken out in a matter of seconds by a Sathanas...

It had a feeling of reality, unlike other spacesims.

Will you be rubbed down into the mud like that too?

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It seems like a fun Idea...

But now you won't be trampled in the mud as harshly as in FSI & II...You thought you got it made in FSI, and then the Shivans came around.

In FSII you got beamcannons and then you met milady Ravana.
The Colossus arrives and you fel all-powerful
And then it is taken out in a matter of seconds by a Sathanas...

It had a feeling of reality, unlike other spacesims.

Will you be rubbed down into the mud like that too?

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Not in exactly the same way...but I'd say there are a number of trauma's that the player character will have to go through. I won't reveal them of course...but it should feel alot like his whole world is falling apart around him.

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