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Posted by Edwin on 06-07-2002 03:51 PM:

um... OK. (nerd)

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Posted by trenthowell on 06-09-2002 06:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
From Babylon 5 to Earth is about 30 light years (give or take) in real space and takes around 4 days in hyperspace. This journey would take around 100 years in real space. Given that a ship doesn't have as much time to accelerate whilst in hyperspace your figures are not unreasonable but still probably more like 1 light year = 1000 miles.


that sounds about right

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Posted by trenthowell on 06-09-2002 06:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
From Babylon 5 to Earth is about 30 light years (give or take) in real space and takes around 4 days in hyperspace. This journey would take around 100 years in real space. Given that a ship doesn't have as much time to accelerate whilst in hyperspace your figures are not unreasonable but still probably more like 1 light year = 1000 miles.


that sounds about right

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Posted by Abersoch on 06-09-2002 03:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
but still probably more like 1 light year = 1000 miles.


Are you talking about 1000 miles of real space or hyperspace?

If a light year is the distance light can travel in a year, then it would have to be considerably more than 1000 miles in real space. After all, the sun is around 195 Million miles from the Earth but it's light travels that distance in 9 minutes.

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Posted by Abersoch on 06-09-2002 03:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
but still probably more like 1 light year = 1000 miles.


Are you talking about 1000 miles of real space or hyperspace?

If a light year is the distance light can travel in a year, then it would have to be considerably more than 1000 miles in real space. After all, the sun is around 195 Million miles from the Earth but it's light travels that distance in 9 minutes.

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Posted by Triggy on 06-09-2002 03:34 PM:

I know, a light year is equal to 5,878,499,812,499 miles. However my point was that one light year in real space is on average equivalent to 1000 miles in hyperspace.

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Posted by darthwoo on 06-09-2002 04:06 PM:

Is there any correlation between hyperspace and realspace (ie gravity wells and things where stars and planets are) such as in Star Wars that makes it hazardous to just go into hyperspace and wander around aimlessly?

What happens to a star if someone opens a jump point into it from hyperspace?


Posted by darthwoo on 06-09-2002 04:06 PM:

Is there any correlation between hyperspace and realspace (ie gravity wells and things where stars and planets are) such as in Star Wars that makes it hazardous to just go into hyperspace and wander around aimlessly?

What happens to a star if someone opens a jump point into it from hyperspace?


Posted by Slasher on 06-09-2002 04:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by darthwoo

What happens to a star if someone opens a jump point into it from hyperspace?



quote:
JMS' words from [url=http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/088.html]The Lurker's Guide[/url]

Actually, the computer voice specifies that it is continuing to note atypical solar emissions...atypical meaning something unusual is going on.


And what if you, say, interfered substantially with the mass of the sun by, say, causing a series of jump points to open up *inside* the sun across several days?

You'd also substantially decrease the mass of Sol, which as I understand it, would result in the sun going nova.

A lot of folks have found the eventual "going out" of Sol to be depressing...but as was stated 'way back in our VERY FIRST EPISODE, this is the one thing we can be sure WILL happen, sooner or later (probably later). Ed. note: "Infection" was indeed the first episode shot, but aired fourth.
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Posted by Slasher on 06-09-2002 04:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by darthwoo

What happens to a star if someone opens a jump point into it from hyperspace?



quote:
JMS' words from [url=http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/088.html]The Lurker's Guide[/url]

Actually, the computer voice specifies that it is continuing to note atypical solar emissions...atypical meaning something unusual is going on.


And what if you, say, interfered substantially with the mass of the sun by, say, causing a series of jump points to open up *inside* the sun across several days?

You'd also substantially decrease the mass of Sol, which as I understand it, would result in the sun going nova.

A lot of folks have found the eventual "going out" of Sol to be depressing...but as was stated 'way back in our VERY FIRST EPISODE, this is the one thing we can be sure WILL happen, sooner or later (probably later). Ed. note: "Infection" was indeed the first episode shot, but aired fourth.
All the more reason to get off the planet, asap.


All the more reason to get off the planet, asap.



Posted by darthwoo on 06-09-2002 04:48 PM:

Hmm...that'd be the ultimate weapon then wouldn't it? Just send a couple expendable ships into hyperspace to mess with an enemy homeworld's star. No planet killers needed.


Posted by darthwoo on 06-09-2002 04:48 PM:

Hmm...that'd be the ultimate weapon then wouldn't it? Just send a couple expendable ships into hyperspace to mess with an enemy homeworld's star. No planet killers needed.


Posted by FSF Ashrak on 06-09-2002 04:56 PM:

ehh well yep you open jumppoint and well the solar mass comes swarmongi into hyperspace and why cant there be battles in hyperspace??

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Posted by Ashark on 06-09-2002 04:56 PM:

ehh well yep you open jumppoint and well the solar mass comes swarmongi into hyperspace and why cant there be battles in hyperspace??

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Posted by darthwoo on 06-09-2002 05:10 PM:

In the words of General Lefcourt, "It's too volatile." Maybe with all the trouble of keeping track of beacons and staying on course, nobody would really want to fight unless they have to or else risk everyone getting lost in the fray. There are some instances of fighting that I can remember, though they were always very small scale confrontations.

-Shadow Battlecrab vs. Warren Keffer's Starfury
-Buncha Vorchans vs. Whitestar w/ Delenn & Lennier

That's all I can think of at the moment.


Posted by darthwoo on 06-09-2002 05:10 PM:

In the words of General Lefcourt, "It's too volatile." Maybe with all the trouble of keeping track of beacons and staying on course, nobody would really want to fight unless they have to or else risk everyone getting lost in the fray. There are some instances of fighting that I can remember, though they were always very small scale confrontations.

-Shadow Battlecrab vs. Warren Keffer's Starfury
-Buncha Vorchans vs. Whitestar w/ Delenn & Lennier

That's all I can think of at the moment.


Posted by FlakBait on 06-09-2002 05:26 PM:

Whitestar destroying shadow fighters and stealing the boatload of frozen teeps.

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Posted by Kip Thorne on 06-09-2002 11:25 PM:

Reasons for not fighting inside hyperspace:

You lose your engines, you die.

You get lost, you die.

You lose the capship during a long journey, you probably die.

You run out of fuel, and forget about the rescuing support ships: you die.

I'd fight on HS only if I were sure that I was going to win (i.e. if I was the organic processor aboard a Battlecrab).

Anyway, play the hyperspace mission on Lady Rose's campaign and reduce that 3500 AWACS range to 1000 meters, play on hard level, and don't get lost in hyperspace. Now THAT'S a challenge


Posted by Kip Thorne on 06-09-2002 11:25 PM:

Reasons for not fighting inside hyperspace:

You lose your engines, you die.

You get lost, you die.

You lose the capship during a long journey, you probably die.

You run out of fuel, and forget about the rescuing support ships: you die.

I'd fight on HS only if I were sure that I was going to win (i.e. if I was the organic processor aboard a Battlecrab).

Anyway, play the hyperspace mission on Lady Rose's campaign and reduce that 3500 AWACS range to 1000 meters, play on hard level, and don't get lost in hyperspace. Now THAT'S a challenge


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