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Speed of the White Star

I know its a bit early for something about the WhiteStar, but i realy have to know:

How fast will the WhiteStar be?
In B5 its faster than the fighters i think, and in Freespace there was no capship faster than... erm... let me think... 35?

And most capships in B5 need to look at their enemys when firing because their weapons are forward looking, but when I set "attack ship" in FRED they stop near the enemy capship.

Will that be changed?

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Speed of the White Star

I know its a bit early for something about the WhiteStar, but i realy have to know:

How fast will the WhiteStar be?
In B5 its faster than the fighters i think, and in Freespace there was no capship faster than... erm... let me think... 35?

And most capships in B5 need to look at their enemys when firing because their weapons are forward looking, but when I set "attack ship" in FRED they stop near the enemy capship.

Will that be changed?

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WhiteStar's speed will be most likely about same or little less than Aurora is currently. It is a balance question more than anything.

WhiteStar will be a gunship. Source Code Project is working on a new gunship AI. Gunship is maneuvering like a fighter but can handle increased number of subsystems and larger hull size. Gunships also has weapons pointed forward like fighters.

Another ships which will benefit from gunship AI are Drazi SunHawk, FireHawk and Centauri Vorchan.

And you should avoid direct attack orders with capital ships. Use waypoints instead. It is howewer ok to use attack orders in some cases. It will not be changed because it is hardcoded AI behaviour. Source Code Project might pull something out their sleeves howewer.

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WhiteStar's speed will be most likely about same or little less than Aurora is currently. It is a balance question more than anything.

WhiteStar will be a gunship. Source Code Project is working on a new gunship AI. Gunship is maneuvering like a fighter but can handle increased number of subsystems and larger hull size. Gunships also has weapons pointed forward like fighters.

Another ships which will benefit from gunship AI are Drazi SunHawk, FireHawk and Centauri Vorchan.

And you should avoid direct attack orders with capital ships. Use waypoints instead. It is howewer ok to use attack orders in some cases. It will not be changed because it is hardcoded AI behaviour. Source Code Project might pull something out their sleeves howewer.

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Ahhh

Thanks for the fast reply!

I couldnt get this question out of my head since i discovered this page!

btw. I LOVE TBP!!! You do a good job and like all others i cant wait for R2!

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Ahhh

Thanks for the fast reply!

I couldnt get this question out of my head since i discovered this page!

btw. I LOVE TBP!!! You do a good job and like all others i cant wait for R2!

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Probably put the WhiteStar at something like 80-100m/s. It won't look perfect...but it should be relatively good.

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Probably put the WhiteStar at something like 80-100m/s. It won't look perfect...but it should be relatively good.

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I think the white star should at least be able to out-run the next-fastest ship. (currently Nial). Otherwise it would be completely cruddy. i mean WS is fastest thing by far in B5, it should be able to get away from anything you guys make.

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ok someone BETTER make a weivpoint on the WS cuz i SO wanna fly 1 im thinking WS in freelancer would seriously kick ass

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ok someone BETTER make a weivpoint on the WS cuz i SO wanna fly 1 im thinking WS in freelancer would seriously kick ass

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quote:
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ok someone BETTER make a weivpoint on the WS cuz i SO wanna fly 1 im thinking WS in freelancer would seriously kick ass


Didn't they say they were gonna make two versions of it? One that was a fighter and one that was the cap ship?

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ok someone BETTER make a weivpoint on the WS cuz i SO wanna fly 1 im thinking WS in freelancer would seriously kick ass


Didn't they say they were gonna make two versions of it? One that was a fighter and one that was the cap ship?

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Didn't they say they were gonna make two versions of it? One that was a fighter and one that was the cap ship?


Thats not quite true. There is a WhiteStar like vessel, seen in the last episode that has been aptly named BlueStar. That will definately be flyable. The WhiteStar...with the source code and fighter beams will probably also be flyable...eventually.

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Didn't they say they were gonna make two versions of it? One that was a fighter and one that was the cap ship?


Thats not quite true. There is a WhiteStar like vessel, seen in the last episode that has been aptly named BlueStar. That will definately be flyable. The WhiteStar...with the source code and fighter beams will probably also be flyable...eventually.

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yeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwww


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the bluestar has only 2 cannons...... or was it 4....anyway WS got 8 + Main beam

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yeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwww


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the bluestar has only 2 cannons...... or was it 4....anyway WS got 8 + Main beam

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actually if you remember the episode where ivanova is fighting

the advanced destroyers the whitestars where faster and much

much more manuverable than the thunderbolt starfuries.......


also when it comes to the gunship class....... while in FRED2 how

bout a command that only the fighters and bombers have....


-attack any ship-

for those of us who never really got deep and heavy into fred

would appreciate it......



And bravo on the hopefully son to be released R2!!!!!!

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actually if you remember the episode where ivanova is fighting

the advanced destroyers the whitestars where faster and much

much more manuverable than the thunderbolt starfuries.......


also when it comes to the gunship class....... while in FRED2 how

bout a command that only the fighters and bombers have....


-attack any ship-

for those of us who never really got deep and heavy into fred

would appreciate it......



And bravo on the hopefully son to be released R2!!!!!!

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that you havta ask in SCP forums


http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=50

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