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I have been playing around with fred2, and I created a mission where an EA hyperion is attacking a single MF tinashi. The EA hyperion fires on the tinashi, but the tinashi does not return fire. I added two MF linitira, and they attack the hyperion.

I checked to make sure that all of the MF ships were listed as hostile, and that all of the guns were healthy.

Also, if I tell Alpha wing to disable the tinashi, the hyperion stops firing...

Any thoughts?

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I have been playing around with fred2, and I created a mission where an EA hyperion is attacking a single MF tinashi. The EA hyperion fires on the tinashi, but the tinashi does not return fire. I added two MF linitira, and they attack the hyperion.

I checked to make sure that all of the MF ships were listed as hostile, and that all of the guns were healthy.

Also, if I tell Alpha wing to disable the tinashi, the hyperion stops firing...

Any thoughts?

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Beam-Free. Set it via trigger in the events editor and that will do the trick.

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Beam-Free. Set it via trigger in the events editor and that will do the trick.

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you need to open up the events editor and make it look lke this


(name of your event)
when
|
has arrived delay
(your tinashi's name)
|
beam-free all
(name of your tinashi here)


that will do the trick

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you need to open up the events editor and make it look lke this


(name of your event)
when
|
has arrived delay
(your tinashi's name)
|
beam-free all
(name of your tinashi here)


that will do the trick

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When you open FRED2, go to "Help" --> "Help topics" and a html help page shows up, there is "Extended walkthrough" or just "Walkthrough" if you click the link in left menu.

This walkthrough should explain basics of fredding.

[URL=http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fury/tbp/fredtutorial/]Here[/URL] you find find TBP-version of FRED2 walkthrough, made by Lady Rose.

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When you open FRED2, go to "Help" --> "Help topics" and a html help page shows up, there is "Extended walkthrough" or just "Walkthrough" if you click the link in left menu.

This walkthrough should explain basics of fredding.

[URL=http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fury/tbp/fredtutorial/]Here[/URL] you find find TBP-version of FRED2 walkthrough, made by Lady Rose.

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It's a quirk of Fred 2 that beam weapons need to be activated (either individually or on a shipwide basis) before they will fire automatically (you can still script individual shots when the beams are locked). All other pulse and fighter weapons don't need to be freed.

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It's a quirk of Fred 2 that beam weapons need to be activated (either individually or on a shipwide basis) before they will fire automatically (you can still script individual shots when the beams are locked). All other pulse and fighter weapons don't need to be freed.

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At the beginning when I fooled around with FRED(2) and noticed beam-free-all I thinked how stupid it is you always have to turn it on? Why not let it be as standard like turrets, but now it really much clearer why and I think its much better this way than that beams would always be online.

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ask volition
i think the souce code project has altered that already dunno for sure

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ask volition
i think the souce code project has altered that already dunno for sure

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quote:

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Originally posted by Fetty
ask volition
i think the souce code project has altered that already dunno for sure

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quote:

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Originally posted by Fetty
ask volition
i think the souce code project has altered that already dunno for sure

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Does beam free all also activate beam protect ship, or do I have to switch between the two?

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SCP has changed beam-free stuff so that you have a checkbox for it in "mission specs" and "ships editor".

Remember, they are avoiding to break backwards compatibility. That is why beams will stay locked by default. Same goes with everything else. Compatibility must be maintained with original FS2 campaign and with all the missions and campaigns out there.

merky1:

-'beam-free(-all)' means that specific ship is allowed to use beams.
-'beam protect ship' means that specific ship is protected from beams, eg. not fired upon by beams.

So, beam-free and beam protect has nothing to do with each other.

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SCP has changed beam-free stuff so that you have a checkbox for it in "mission specs" and "ships editor".

Remember, they are avoiding to break backwards compatibility. That is why beams will stay locked by default. Same goes with everything else. Compatibility must be maintained with original FS2 campaign and with all the missions and campaigns out there.

merky1:

-'beam-free(-all)' means that specific ship is allowed to use beams.
-'beam protect ship' means that specific ship is protected from beams, eg. not fired upon by beams.

So, beam-free and beam protect has nothing to do with each other.

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Originally posted by Lady Rose
At the beginning when I fooled around with FRED(2) and noticed beam-free-all I thinked how stupid it is you always have to turn it on? Why not let it be as standard like turrets, but now it really much clearer why and I think its much better this way than that beams would always be online.

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Exactly. If ships came in with beams on by default the mission designer would simply be giving up more control over what happened to the AI. Basically, things can become unpredictable. This is even more true with TBP, partly due to the different levels of technology the various species hold.

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Originally posted by Lady Rose
At the beginning when I fooled around with FRED(2) and noticed beam-free-all I thinked how stupid it is you always have to turn it on? Why not let it be as standard like turrets, but now it really much clearer why and I think its much better this way than that beams would always be online.

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Exactly. If ships came in with beams on by default the mission designer would simply be giving up more control over what happened to the AI. Basically, things can become unpredictable. This is even more true with TBP, partly due to the different levels of technology the various species hold.

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