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I've been thinking of what the Capella system would be like after the primary sun exploded. Would the system be completly uninhabitable, completly run over with radiation, or would it just be messed up in certain areas?? I saw the Star Trek movie Generation and saw the Nexus hit the sun and the whole place was destroyed by a massive shockwave. Would that be what it was like during the Capella nove?

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I've been thinking of what the Capella system would be like after the primary sun exploded. Would the system be completly uninhabitable, completly run over with radiation, or would it just be messed up in certain areas?? I saw the Star Trek movie Generation and saw the Nexus hit the sun and the whole place was destroyed by a massive shockwave. Would that be what it was like during the Capella nove?

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Most likely you would find a very dense and very volitile nebula.
I suppose if the sun was big enough it would collapse on itself and form a black hole

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Most likely you would find a very dense and very volitile nebula.
I suppose if the sun was big enough it would collapse on itself and form a black hole

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You would get two shockwaves. An electromagnetic one followed swiftly afterwards by one created by the matter blasted from the star (The cutscene shows that quite well). Afterwards you`d be left with a very dense and hot nebula covering upwards of 1 light year in diameter which would give out huge amounts of x-rays and take thousends of years to cool down.

Basically capella is no go unless you`re setting FS3 in the year 9026 or so.

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You would get two shockwaves. An electromagnetic one followed swiftly afterwards by one created by the matter blasted from the star (The cutscene shows that quite well). Afterwards you`d be left with a very dense and hot nebula covering upwards of 1 light year in diameter which would give out huge amounts of x-rays and take thousends of years to cool down.

Basically capella is no go unless you`re setting FS3 in the year 9026 or so.

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Capella nova and zero-space cataclysm

The real Capella star could never go nova. It is far to small for such a thing to happen (almost at the same size as Sol).
But if the core became unstable due to sub-space disrubtion, the Tachyon-prosses inside the core would make the entire thing go critical.
The core would grow out of the other shell of the star, jetisoning it out into space as a voilative electromagnetic wave.
After this, the core would be the only thing remaining, and just a few minutes or hours later, gravity would make it collapse in a voilative implotion.
Such a incident would have created a Zero-space cataclysm, a shock-wave on the subatomic-scape that could spread to other stars by the tachyon-streams, making these stars go nova as well after several million years.
In our own universe, the cataclysm would be like a huge waveform that seperated the smallest construction-blocks of nature; the superstrings and atoms.
This waveform would eventually drain out of energy and would disappear after having traveled for several AU`s, maby even lightyears. Everything caught by the waveform would be blown into oblivion as the superstrings and atoms where sperated from the matter.
After the collapse of the star, a planetary nebula could begin to take form. It would take more then 40000 years before it would become a dense nebula-field, tough. In the first tousand years after the explotion, there would be asteroid-fields and gass-pockets spread out over a huge distance.
The collapsed core would probably have become a neutron-star, a dwarf-star or a black hole, sucking this matter toward itself.

There are then two things that could happen; all matter around the neutron-star or black hole would be succed in by the huge gravetational-field and would disappear after just a decade
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The gass and asteroids would begin to spread as a ring around the neutron-star/black-hole, and maby even form new planets (we have detected about 50 such planets orbiting neutron-stars and dwarf-stars), if this last scenario is the case, then it would become a planetary-nebula that would last for about a million years, maby longer.

All this is just speculation, of course. And as Freespace is just fiction, we have to use our fantasy in order to get the answer.


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Capella nova and zero-space cataclysm

The real Capella star could never go nova. It is far to small for such a thing to happen (almost at the same size as Sol).
But if the core became unstable due to sub-space disrubtion, the Tachyon-prosses inside the core would make the entire thing go critical.
The core would grow out of the other shell of the star, jetisoning it out into space as a voilative electromagnetic wave.
After this, the core would be the only thing remaining, and just a few minutes or hours later, gravity would make it collapse in a voilative implotion.
Such a incident would have created a Zero-space cataclysm, a shock-wave on the subatomic-scape that could spread to other stars by the tachyon-streams, making these stars go nova as well after several million years.
In our own universe, the cataclysm would be like a huge waveform that seperated the smallest construction-blocks of nature; the superstrings and atoms.
This waveform would eventually drain out of energy and would disappear after having traveled for several AU`s, maby even lightyears. Everything caught by the waveform would be blown into oblivion as the superstrings and atoms where sperated from the matter.
After the collapse of the star, a planetary nebula could begin to take form. It would take more then 40000 years before it would become a dense nebula-field, tough. In the first tousand years after the explotion, there would be asteroid-fields and gass-pockets spread out over a huge distance.
The collapsed core would probably have become a neutron-star, a dwarf-star or a black hole, sucking this matter toward itself.

There are then two things that could happen; all matter around the neutron-star or black hole would be succed in by the huge gravetational-field and would disappear after just a decade
-----or------
The gass and asteroids would begin to spread as a ring around the neutron-star/black-hole, and maby even form new planets (we have detected about 50 such planets orbiting neutron-stars and dwarf-stars), if this last scenario is the case, then it would become a planetary-nebula that would last for about a million years, maby longer.

All this is just speculation, of course. And as Freespace is just fiction, we have to use our fantasy in order to get the answer.


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The real Capella star could never go nova. It is far to small for such a thing to happen (almost at the same size as Sol).

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The real Capella star could never go nova. It is far to small for such a thing to happen (almost at the same size as Sol).

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As for the rest is that real physics or star trek physics?

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Well, both actually.

The thing about the tachyon-streams and that of subspace is being discussed by some of the gratest minds on Earth (Steven W. Hawking, and so on).
The zero-space cataclysm; i.e. subatomic wave of tachyon-energy is consiedered a fact. If a star; lets say Capella, dies a unnatural death, it will, in teory, unleasch a massive shockwave of tachyon-particles. This wave will have a effect on all the 11 dimensions of our universe; including the three main: normal space, tachyon-space (also known as subspace) and zero-space.
The fact of planets around post-nova stars are true. All planets we have found around any solar-system is massive Jupiter-like stars, we cannot detect them by eye, but by mesuring the stars wubble in the cosmic dance of gravity. Visit nasa.gov for more info on this.
It is found more then 30 massive planets around neutron-stars and dwarf-stars, showing that it is possible to maintain a stable orbit around any star.
Planetary nebulas are a very known fact. Hubble has taken pictures of more then 30 (at least) of them. They are natures art, created and maintained by gravity, colourful and havenly they are the birthplace for planets. Bigger nebulas, called "starclouds" are the birthplace for the stars themselfs.
Anyway, the electromagnetic-wave is also a fact. This wave consists of gamma-radiation, X-ray, visible light, UV; you name it.
The wave has been seen countless times in all of human history, and is caused by the explotion of a star.
So most of what I wrote back there is fact; some is speculation, but most is fact.


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As for the rest is that real physics or star trek physics?

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Well, both actually.

The thing about the tachyon-streams and that of subspace is being discussed by some of the gratest minds on Earth (Steven W. Hawking, and so on).
The zero-space cataclysm; i.e. subatomic wave of tachyon-energy is consiedered a fact. If a star; lets say Capella, dies a unnatural death, it will, in teory, unleasch a massive shockwave of tachyon-particles. This wave will have a effect on all the 11 dimensions of our universe; including the three main: normal space, tachyon-space (also known as subspace) and zero-space.
The fact of planets around post-nova stars are true. All planets we have found around any solar-system is massive Jupiter-like stars, we cannot detect them by eye, but by mesuring the stars wubble in the cosmic dance of gravity. Visit nasa.gov for more info on this.
It is found more then 30 massive planets around neutron-stars and dwarf-stars, showing that it is possible to maintain a stable orbit around any star.
Planetary nebulas are a very known fact. Hubble has taken pictures of more then 30 (at least) of them. They are natures art, created and maintained by gravity, colourful and havenly they are the birthplace for planets. Bigger nebulas, called "starclouds" are the birthplace for the stars themselfs.
Anyway, the electromagnetic-wave is also a fact. This wave consists of gamma-radiation, X-ray, visible light, UV; you name it.
The wave has been seen countless times in all of human history, and is caused by the explotion of a star.
So most of what I wrote back there is fact; some is speculation, but most is fact.


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Well, both actually.

The thing about the tachyon-streams and that of subspace is being discussed by some of the gratest minds on Earth (Steven W. Hawking, and so on).
The zero-space cataclysm; i.e. subatomic wave of tachyon-energy is consiedered a fact. If a star; lets say Capella, dies a unnatural death, it will, in theory, unleasch a massive shockwave of tachyon-particles. This wave will have a effect on all the 11 dimensions of our universe; including the three main: normal space, tachyon-space (also known as subspace) and zero-space.

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Well, both actually.

The thing about the tachyon-streams and that of subspace is being discussed by some of the gratest minds on Earth (Steven W. Hawking, and so on).
The zero-space cataclysm; i.e. subatomic wave of tachyon-energy is consiedered a fact. If a star; lets say Capella, dies a unnatural death, it will, in theory, unleasch a massive shockwave of tachyon-particles. This wave will have a effect on all the 11 dimensions of our universe; including the three main: normal space, tachyon-space (also known as subspace) and zero-space.

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ok letsa make this plain and clear stars go nova because the stability in the "i want to pull it in" and "i want to throw it out" discussion in the star is distrupted if you would remove some of the atrs mass it would implode because the gavity force will be higher than the explosive forse it would let out a gigant blast that would take out a little of stuff and it would not blast planets to bits after the intitial shockwave a black hole would form on the exact spot of the star sucking stuff into well hell i donno noone has gone there and came back


the second thing is if the stars gravityc force was distrupted it would explode with its VERY big amounts of hydrogen and well blow the **** out of everything in its radius it would leave a nebula behind the blast because a lot of stellar material is vaporised into verry unthick dust and because of the gravity it dosent go anywhere (yes, that is how nebulaes have become well nebulaes) thats why in freespace you can actully fly around in that space at normal speed ofcourse youll have to give the fighter a shower after your flight because of the micro stellar dust


a star when it blows unleashes all of its nuclear power (lack for a better word) and with nuclear power comes infite number of gamma rays so lets say you realy realy dont wanna go there youd be dead in less than a minute


concludion: Nebulae because the capella sun did explode not implode and LOTSA LOTSA of radiation

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ok letsa make this plain and clear stars go nova because the stability in the "i want to pull it in" and "i want to throw it out" discussion in the star is distrupted if you would remove some of the atrs mass it would implode because the gavity force will be higher than the explosive forse it would let out a gigant blast that would take out a little of stuff and it would not blast planets to bits after the intitial shockwave a black hole would form on the exact spot of the star sucking stuff into well hell i donno noone has gone there and came back


the second thing is if the stars gravityc force was distrupted it would explode with its VERY big amounts of hydrogen and well blow the **** out of everything in its radius it would leave a nebula behind the blast because a lot of stellar material is vaporised into verry unthick dust and because of the gravity it dosent go anywhere (yes, that is how nebulaes have become well nebulaes) thats why in freespace you can actully fly around in that space at normal speed ofcourse youll have to give the fighter a shower after your flight because of the micro stellar dust


a star when it blows unleashes all of its nuclear power (lack for a better word) and with nuclear power comes infite number of gamma rays so lets say you realy realy dont wanna go there youd be dead in less than a minute


concludion: Nebulae because the capella sun did explode not implode and LOTSA LOTSA of radiation

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That was the bit I was wondering about. The rest I already knew was a fact. As for the above a search on zero space and tachyon on google turned up nothing so I had to ask. If you know a site that explains it well please post it.

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That was the bit I was wondering about. The rest I already knew was a fact. As for the above a search on zero space and tachyon on google turned up nothing so I had to ask. If you know a site that explains it well please post it.

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zerospace on the other hand as i sayed in my last post about our universe beeing dimension 0 well its's not. Zero-space is a dimension where all other dimensions were born from it is empty there is nothing there exept blacknes and so the further we go from there the more changes will be done to other universes our universe in the grand sceme is in say 100000 place to infinity because we have lotsa stars and sun so changes are pretty big

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zerospace on the other hand as i sayed in my last post about our universe beeing dimension 0 well its's not. Zero-space is a dimension where all other dimensions were born from it is empty there is nothing there exept blacknes and so the further we go from there the more changes will be done to other universes our universe in the grand sceme is in say 100000 place to infinity because we have lotsa stars and sun so changes are pretty big

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