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Quirino2000
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Exclamation Rf Bug List

Plz.. make a new patch

All known bugs in Red Faction: (Updated May 16 2002)
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Even though Volition has lost interest in fixing bugs in Red Faction (RF) its good to know about all known bugs. How to exploit bugs and use them as cheats will not be discussed here. Feel free to add more bugs (many are not listed here yet), add more info about a bug, correct any grammar or typos, or even remove faults. This list is for the PC version of RF and show only bugs. Improvements are for another list.


Cheating:

# Cheating:
It is too easy to use mods and trainers to cheat. Punk Buster is a solution to this (many games use this) because it constantly updates to every know cheats.
Before: Flying, faster fire, more ammo, faster movement.
Now: Auto Name Change (cannot ban with rcon), starting with ammo weapons, a bit faster fire, a bit more ammo, passing through walls and much more.

# Wrong Skin:
Sometimes when changing teams the player don’t die, so the colour of the player is still the same as before, the player can then fool and more easily kill other players.

# Instant Reload:
There is a way to instant reload all weapons. The players can shoot more shots and be more dangerous.

# Infinite Ammo:
There is a way to get more and more ammo for Fusion, Rail and Remote (well for every weapon but only 1 more ammo at every time).

# Rapid Fire:
There is a way to rapid fire rockets and fusions up to 6 in a row (yourself only see max 2).

# Zoom through Walls:
With some hardware and thin walls, the walls will vanish in sight when zooming (with rail, sniper, precision) so the player can se much more of the map and shoot (with rail) players though walls without having to count on the infra red that has only small distance.


Compability:

# No MultiTasking:
No multitasking can be used in RF (with exception to programs that don’t update the screen like Winamp). So minimizing wont work (or pressing the Windows Keys or mouse wheel). When crashed often the game will shut down or the control of the player will be lost (and he starts spinning).

# Ping:
High ping can do very strange tings, like invulnerability, looking like you shoot a fusion but you didn’t because you died before.

# Max 300 Maps:
Sometimes more then 300 maps in multi folder will give strange errors, like not having the map. This can be fixed by pack the map files together (vppbuilder).

# GeoMod:
GeoMod events lag even the most powerful PC.

# GeForce2/3 Slow:
GeForce 3 and 2 cards have sometimes low fps (especially with old PC).

# Slow Motion:
Slow motion effect with certain PC's and when upgrading RAM

# No WinXP
Poor compabilty with WinXP, like to slow.

# EAX:
The EAX music support is very buggy.

# Reload:
On some GeForce cards the weapons will not reload 100% of the time. Sometimes you have to switch weapons then reload.

# Door Freeze:
Sometimes when a door opens (everywhere on the map) the computer loads from floppy and the display freezes for a second.

# LAN Server List:
The servers on the LAN do not show up 90% of the time. If they do show up it takes over 2 minutes for them to show up in the list.

# High LAN Ping:
Ping times on LAN range from 7ms all the way to 50ms, compared to Quake3's 3ms to 18ms.

# Import Ban List:
You cannot import a banlist.txt file unless you mark the file read only. If you don’t mark the file ready only, when the server is closed it Re-Writes the banlist.txt ignoring the address you had imported.


Other:

# Ban Crash:
Banning and kicking player will often crash the server, and every ban in that instance will not be remembered. Strange things will happen when banning/kicking (with rcon) player with same name.

# No Flag Return:
Sometimes the flag won’t return in CTF, like when kicking a flying flag barrier cheater in the air. Only thing to do is manually change map or wait until time has ended. This happens when the flag is in a skybox, well done maps can prevent this.

# Map Crash:
Some maps cause the server to crash. Some maps cause the players to crash.

# Server Pass:
The Server set password feature does not work correctly. This is making it almost impossible to have a private match.

# Crouching:
Crouching doesn’t work well on low ceilings, you often just stand up through the ceiling and can see strange things and can’t shoot.

# GeoMod Trap:
Sometimes the player can be trapped in GeoMod holes, the only way to get free is be killed or type kill in console.

# Fence Trap:
Sometimes the player can be trapped at the edge of a fence, the only way to get free is be killed or type kill in console.

# GeoMod:
Some debris disappears completely, some are indestructible, and some just disappear when destroyed without an explosion animation.

# No Fallen Objects:
Fallen objects sometimes don’t show up for other players, like if destroy top and bottom of a column will create a boulder that’s not visible for other player that are not in the same room. It can then appear like the player is flying when he/she stands on it.

# Fusion Explosion:
If you look into a Fusion rocket explosion at any distance you die. If you turn away from the explosion, it can land at your feet and you have a big chance of survival.


Minor:

# Wrong Frag:
Sometimes players get frags/points someone else did, like when never spawned and getting many frags.

# Passable Doors:
When being trailed and you are running backwards, the chaser goes through the door 1 second before it opens on the prey's pc.

# Stuck after Jump:
Sometimes after jumping the player get stuck in the ground, to get unstuck jump again.

# Sky GeoMod:
Be able to tunnelling into the sky/space.

# Water GeoMod:
Objects partially in water can give very strange GeoMod.

# Models in Water:
Sometimes arms/upper body is now drawn under water.

# Ladder GeoMod:
Even demolished ladders are climbable. You essentially go up into the air not climbing on anything. This is because of the climbing regions will not disappear when destroying in a GeoMod region.

# Glass GeoMod:
Some glass breaks on a explosion, and some just turn black. Really tough glass will make strange things when shoot at with rockets, like flying through without breaking it.

# Rockets in Sky:
Rockets shoot up in the sky can land everywhere on the map even if it’s a ceiling there.

# Remote Charge on Player:
Remote Charge placed on players makes strange things, like high jump, no jump and flying.

# Head Bounce:
Jumping on other players head sometimes though you up high in the air.

# Ammo Count:
Ammo Count is sometimes weird. Like you can get lesser ammo loaded when taking up new ammo (about 4 less).

# Health Count:
Sometimes when picking up health pack when having low health will not give the correct +50 health, like having only 1 (or 2) health left and take a health pack having 50, not 51 (or 52) as it should.

# Double Messages:
Sometimes every message is duplicated.

# Writeing Messages:
Sometimes if frezes and if u pres esc u crash the game.

# Weird Light:
Weird bight white light after using baton and switching to rockets (or the other way around).

# Rail Miss Beamed:
The rail beak sometimes isn’t showed right ahead, it bounces off a wall (but not the real one, just the graphics). It was said the 1.2 patch would fix it but it didn’t.

# Lights on Players:
Flickering light on player. Lightness on things like weapons and health can be very dark even though the map is light.

# No Wall GeoMod:
Some walls looks like they will be generate GeoMod event with explosion and debris, but no hole will appear. Often happens when a GeoMod region is misplaced, well done maps can prevent this.

# No Auto Switch:
The auto switch to a better weapon do not work while reloading.


Single Play:
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# Vehicles Unsteady:
Sometimes vehicles flip and spin around on the smallest boulder.


RED (Red Faction Editor):
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# PS2 Facing:
PS2 facing tilling

# No Lights:
Often lights don’t show up, have to hide/unhide all and rerender (w, shift w, l, shift l)

# UW Maper Coulers:
The UW maper Whitenes/Green after testing level

#Run Crash
When a map is tested RED will crash when using WinXP

#Cut Scenes
Cut Scenes can be made without the original compiler (missing dll files), so it will only crash the game.


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I, Strider and Q2k, don’t take credit for this list. I have only summarized what many people have found (including me).

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YO .
How works this thing where you pack map files together? cause i cant get anymore maps to take says they aint there. so i took some dm maps out ...and still same ting?

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how many maps u have in there ??
I can only have 266 max.. but some 300 ..

u could try to use the vpp builder..

but i´m not sure if it will work ..

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That seems a complete list, I would also like to mention an annoying bug for the ps2 version, the gun sounds almost disappear if you tap the fire button quickly, say if you have the machine gun, you can fire at a ridiculus rate and have almost no weapon sound.

You can also zoom into a characters face and see the facial polygons under the textures.

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quote:
Originally posted by vettinit-X-
YO .
How works this thing where you pack map files together? cause i cant get anymore maps to take says they aint there. so i took some dm maps out ...and still same ting?



Creat 2 folders in your usermap directory, one called DM and the other CTF, if you want to play CTF copt that folder in to Multi and vica versa etc etc, this is the way I do it and it works fine

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A lot of that is wrong, but you have made some valid points.

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Quirno did u just copy this from my forum?

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:)

Yeah I did copy it..
But I was also one of the ppl who started the bug list /patch for RF in the old vbb..

but I added some new bugs to the list ..

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hmmmm that about sums it up :-)

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