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Fleets of ships

I have two questions really:

i) Using Fred can you have scenarios containing more than 100 ships - I like large numbers of fighters like in "Severed Dreams" there are roughly 200 fighters.

ii) Also using Fred is it possible to have wings larger than six ships, or four in the case of Alpha, Beta and Gamma Squadrons and if not is there a way to make separate squadrons act aas a single squadron?

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I don't even want to think about the FPS in a game with 100+ ships on screen.

But that would be cool to see.

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I dunno, every time I make a mission if FRED 2 it crashes when I add the 50th ship. It's either a bug or FRED 2 is limited to 49 ships max. The way I get around that is to have multiple waves of each wing, say 15 waves of Nials, 4 in each wing. Once the first wave is destroyed another jumps in without delay. It's not perfect but it's the only way I know how to get more ships.

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Well I've just put together a rough mission with 3 Novas + 48 Starfuries vs. 2 Novas + 2 Hyperions + 45 Starfuries. It plays relatively well, I just need to balance the orders to make it fully balanced. The only current downside is that once the Hyperions die the opposition Novas quickly dominate.

It is really cool fighting in the midst of all the major gunfire, trying to quickly pick targets and dodge fighters on your tail. It becomes imperative to work prperly in wings, in formation.

BTW I can run all this on only a PIII 600, 128 MB RAM and 32MB TNT2.

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grrrrr, must be a bug in my FRED 2. How the heck can people have so many ships?

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could be

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Will you release that mission soon? Would be great... Sure others would like to play that one, too!

And yes, my PC won't have any problems with it since yours hasn't either.

PS: As far as I know, there are even more people with relatively new computers than most people imagine. Just a few months ago it was me who had to hear of all his friends how fantastic those PCs were while I had this crappy thing with 1/3 the MHz count the others had... Seemed to be the only one. But now I'm glad this is finally over.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Triggy
BTW I can run all this on only a PIII 600, 128 MB RAM and 32MB TNT2.

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That's what you call only? And I thought I hadn't missed the past years developments in PC hardware... 3 Months ago I would have been glad to call such a thing my own!

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I post this on a SGI 2nd Gen Octane with 8 1.5 Gig processors and 4 Gigs of RAM

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Your own?

Well, I once had the luck to work at a computer as big as 2 huge cupboards. It needed about 100l of water for processor cooling per minute and stood in a room being conditioned by two air-conditioning systems just as big as the computer. Had some terabytes of diskspace and some gigabytes of RAM... But somehow that was rather boring. The only thing it was doing was processing tons of databases, tables, developer's data and so on... And the only way to change that data was to access it via a terminal emulator. That thing was recently replaced by a few 1m³-sized risk-processor machines... Not the same feeling. And I still prefer my PC since it can run FS2: TBP.

Or is anyone going to convert that to Unix or MVS?

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Nope sadly not mine I'm at my University's Vis lab working in Maya. But I am up grading my home computer to a 2gig processor 1 gig RAM Radion 8500 at the end of the month. Gotta keep up...

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Vis lab? What are you studying btw?

PS: Cool, I'm Murdock... Do I have to go insane now? Am I already?

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Maya. Its a, well THE premier 3D animation program. Used in Final Fantacy, Shrek, Toy Story 2 etc.

It's a little intensive, especially with 400 meg+ files like mine so I come here to use it.



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By the way, the mission I was talking about will probably be ready in a few days (as I said it was only a rough mission). I'll post it when ready

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Just for kicks I'll post this link again. You wanna see alot of ships.....

http://www.angelfire.com/ak3/gauseweixelman/example.html

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Im completley jealous of you people im probablly not going to get a new processor untill the 20gigs come out in 2007. And even then ill probably only end up getting a 2-5 gig.

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Reminds me of an aquarium somehow...

No, it's cool... I'm just talking to my pocket mice!
[whisper]You tiny little beings.[/whisper]
Just recently went Murdock...

Looking forward to the mission... Will you send it to Sheridan, too?

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It's odd when you think about our priorities sometimes. I'm buying these upgrades with money I should be spending on food and rent...

Hmmm, he's hungery and homeless, but hey, that's a nice computer!

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The main reason I'm doing this mission is not to have huge capital ship battles but more to have a stand up and knock down fight with the capital ships sort of in the background. My impression was that the only way Starfury pilots can keep up with the status of the battle itself was through radio communiques, there simpley isn't the time nor concentration to do anything else.

With that said, a good dozen capital ships a side also sounds like good fun [evil laugh].

With that I think that I now have two projects on my hands

D'oh!

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I find that the most important part of the computer is the connection speed/ping to the internet. I just realised this recently when I went to university and have attached my computer to a kickass 1Mbp/s connection

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