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White-SF
Murdock

Registered: Oct 2001
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This can't be true... this must not be true!

OMG ... b5crusade.com leads to a sex site!!! What the hell is that?

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Old Post 10-16-2001 06:34 PM
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The show really sucked...In my huble opinion. It just didn't have the same feel of B5. I missed the old charactors and after seeing the pilot lost interest.
Maybe this is just one of TNT's ways of pumping up the ratings.

Who here cried when the Babylong 5 station blew up? I did....
Who here cried when they put that Crusade pupy to sleep? I didn't...

It is shocking that they would replace a site that children visit with something like that.
I'm sure there are some hackers around they could 'fix' the link.

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Somehow I like Crusade... In Germany it never showed up in TV. I bought a few cassettes. I perhaps will buy all the cassettes excepte Vol.1.02 since it isn't in that store I go to. Perhaps when I next order something at amazon.

I think the idea behind Crusade was not that bad (it was JMS's, so it can't)... Some Strorytelling reminded me of Star Trek's best days. But without that JMS/TNT problem it would perhaps even been better...

I accept Crusade as another part of telling the Story of the Bab5 universe... as the TV movies are and as the next one will be... and LotR will be perhaps, if the series is going to be done!

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Registered: Oct 2001
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I'm sorry but Crusade was just starting to get into some serious plot for the next couple of episodes planned before the show was canned. Can anyone seriously say that the first 13 episodes of B5 were that great if they are taken out of context and have no following episodes. The beauty of B5 is that all of the threads pull together and create an epic saga.

Also there were the innumerable TNT-JMS conflicts. They messed up the show for sure - just look at the uniform changes.

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I liked the new uniforms....

Your have a point though about how the first season of B5 sucked but like most stories you need plot development to make it good. Maybe I was just disapointed in not seeing Garabaldi or Ivannava. Then again....I saw the series as a contunuation of that B5 movie...which I didn't really like....Didn't like Sheridans new haircut.

The last season of B5 kind of sucked too... It seamed as if they were trying to wrap things up but were dragging their feet to make a season out of it. I wanted to see what happened to Sheiden and Delens son....it was mentioned how he did something...embarresing? What did he do...all I know is that the Drak had something to do with it.

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The uniform...

Well, check the episode "APPEARANCES AND OTHER DECEITS"... Everything that is needed to know is said there.

Those uniforms were supposed to be for expeditionary spaceships to better fit the needs of the ships' crews being far off regular routes... Only some official guys wanted to change those because the people on Earth should see some "heroes" on the quest for a cure...

Haven't seen the last 5 episodes yet... Did they wear those ugly grey/red suits? Or did they keep the dark blue / black(?) uniforms?

Let's hope SciFi/JMS will work better!

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Oh those....

I thought you meant the ones the command staff on B5 wore after breaking away from Earth.
The ones Delen gave them after the rebirth ceramony.

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There was 5 good and 8 bad episodes of Crusade. 5 without TNT interference, and 8 with added 'SuparAmremrican Wresteleing Fihgting and SEX'.

It would have been good, but TNT just HAD to go and ruin it for all of us. Funny, first it was JMS and his good l33tness, then TNT wanted to make some changes (see above). First they show the 8 crappy ones, people lose interest and don't see the 5 good ones. Ratings are down so the show is cancelled. Nah, probably cancelled it before the first episode was even shown.

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I missed the old charactors and after seeing the pilot lost interest.

If Warzone was the only thing you saw, then you really missed the boat. Warzone was the one that TNT mangled the most. It was utter crap and it was totally devoid of any redeeming qualities (except Thunderbolts blowing Drakh off the cliff....even that was a tad silly).

The rest ranged from decent to quite good.

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