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But Ea has a huge fleet of ships, EA have been on building program ever since the EA/Minbari war so 240 destroyers would be a drop in the ocean......

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Additionally, with the plague, the Drakh had probably written humanity off as a power. Meaning futher attacks wouldn't be necessary. In short, they probably expected us to lay down and die.

Big mistake.

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Additionally, with the plague, the Drakh had probably written humanity off as a power. Meaning futher attacks wouldn't be necessary. In short, they probably expected us to lay down and die.

Big mistake.

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I think ISN means with 240 destroyers 240 capships at all.
The destruction of 240 Omegas+Warlocks would have caused casualitys of about a quarter million men! Not counted support ships, cruisers and fighters.
They must be talking about Capships as destroyers, most of the puplic proparbly doesn´t know the difference in shipclasses.

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I think ISN means with 240 destroyers 240 capships at all.
The destruction of 240 Omegas+Warlocks would have caused casualitys of about a quarter million men! Not counted support ships, cruisers and fighters.
They must be talking about Capships as destroyers, most of the puplic proparbly doesn´t know the difference in shipclasses.

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In episode "Intersections in Real Time" it was said that Roanoke had crew of 547.

In episode "Endgame" Franklin did talk about saving 30.000 lives. If we assume that Sheridan's forces would have lost one Omega destroyer for every Omega destroyer that was loyal to president Clark, then we get the sum 30 destroyers x crew of 500 x 2 = 30.000.

So, if EA lost 240 Omega class destroyers in the Drakh attack, casualties would have been around 120.000 (500x240). Plus of course fighter pilots and so on.

Howewer, EAS Cerberus (Gideon's Omega) had crew of 371 when Shadow Hybrid attacked and destroyed the Cerberus

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In episode "Intersections in Real Time" it was said that Roanoke had crew of 547.

In episode "Endgame" Franklin did talk about saving 30.000 lives. If we assume that Sheridan's forces would have lost one Omega destroyer for every Omega destroyer that was loyal to president Clark, then we get the sum 30 destroyers x crew of 500 x 2 = 30.000.

So, if EA lost 240 Omega class destroyers in the Drakh attack, casualties would have been around 120.000 (500x240). Plus of course fighter pilots and so on.

Howewer, EAS Cerberus (Gideon's Omega) had crew of 371 when Shadow Hybrid attacked and destroyed the Cerberus

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Don't forget that many league forces were involved in the battle as well (not many, few dozen methinks). It is possible that those were included on the count.

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Don't forget that many league forces were involved in the battle as well (not many, few dozen methinks). It is possible that those were included on the count.

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I have never seen Cruseade (we poor Europeans ) but wasn't the Cerebrus on any kind of routine mission? Maybe it wasn't manned by the full crew, or maybe they got vacation on the planet or something like that.

Another reason could be, that the ISA technology allows the EA to run more systems automated. That would mean less crew (and more space for GROPOS )

BTW does anyone know how many crew a warlock carries?

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I have never seen Cruseade (we poor Europeans ) but wasn't the Cerebrus on any kind of routine mission? Maybe it wasn't manned by the full crew, or maybe they got vacation on the planet or something like that.

Another reason could be, that the ISA technology allows the EA to run more systems automated. That would mean less crew (and more space for GROPOS )

BTW does anyone know how many crew a warlock carries?

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[B]In episode "Endgame" Franklin did talk about saving 30.000 lives. If we assume that Sheridan's forces would have lost one Omega destroyer for every Omega destroyer that was loyal to president Clark, then we get the sum 30 destroyers x crew of 500 x 2 = 30.000.

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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
[B]In episode "Endgame" Franklin did talk about saving 30.000 lives. If we assume that Sheridan's forces would have lost one Omega destroyer for every Omega destroyer that was loyal to president Clark, then we get the sum 30 destroyers x crew of 500 x 2 = 30.000.

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When Franklin said 1000 a piece I think a large number of the crew were marines. I think the EA would have wanted to take some of those ships back if possible so they would send the marines in to arrest the crews. I mean if a ship ends up disabled and the crew surrenders why not take the ship back?

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I think B5TECH has good info on the Omega crew. Anywhere from between 300 to 1000 depending on mission requirements is what they say. My guess is that when they're just on patrol missions deep within pacified space they can have a "skeleton" crew. During wartime, a la Endgame, they'll give 'em more personnel for damage control teams, security, etc.

Ranger 1 has a good point too. Clark would've probably of wanted some extra marines on those ships, both to board others and to ensure the regulars didn't get any last second urges to join Sheridan's side. Nothing like a few hundred blindly loyal and armed jarheads standing over your shoulder to keep you in check.

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I think B5TECH has good info on the Omega crew. Anywhere from between 300 to 1000 depending on mission requirements is what they say. My guess is that when they're just on patrol missions deep within pacified space they can have a "skeleton" crew. During wartime, a la Endgame, they'll give 'em more personnel for damage control teams, security, etc.

Ranger 1 has a good point too. Clark would've probably of wanted some extra marines on those ships, both to board others and to ensure the regulars didn't get any last second urges to join Sheridan's side. Nothing like a few hundred blindly loyal and armed jarheads standing over your shoulder to keep you in check.

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I wouldn't blindly trust on any information in B5Tech...
The site even writes that Olympus class corvettes have 2 Twin Particle Beams!

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I wouldn't blindly trust on any information in B5Tech...
The site even writes that Olympus class corvettes have 2 Twin Particle Beams!

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I wouldn't blindly trust on any information in B5Tech...
The site even writes that Olympus class corvettes have 2 Twin Particle Beams!

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Mayby Olympus haves 2 twin particle beams and has been hiding them until now

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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
I wouldn't blindly trust on any information in B5Tech...
The site even writes that Olympus class corvettes have 2 Twin Particle Beams!

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Mayby Olympus haves 2 twin particle beams and has been hiding them until now

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