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I'm confident we'd self destruct and lock all our doors before they could get out

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I'm confident we'd self destruct and lock all our doors before they could get out

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Angry

Still yet awaiting response from blueflames and rake.

As to the destruction of a Sathanas, impossible. The Sathanas's hull is too strong for that. Its beams and flak would cut right through. We can speculate that a Sathanas houses at least 400 fighers/bombers, long enough to stop the incomings.

As to the destruction of any other cap ship, also near impossible. The GTVA is in possession of more than 250,000 fighters and bombers, and more than 500 capital warships. The destruction of one is unlikely and a mission as so would be considered suicidal.

As to the pictures

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Angry

Still yet awaiting response from blueflames and rake.

As to the destruction of a Sathanas, impossible. The Sathanas's hull is too strong for that. Its beams and flak would cut right through. We can speculate that a Sathanas houses at least 400 fighers/bombers, long enough to stop the incomings.

As to the destruction of any other cap ship, also near impossible. The GTVA is in possession of more than 250,000 fighters and bombers, and more than 500 capital warships. The destruction of one is unlikely and a mission as so would be considered suicidal.

As to the pictures

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we?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bobboau
you have people saying things like "I am useing a script",


Where? WHERE? I asked you a page ago, DAYS AGO, to prove this and you have completely failed to do so. I even gave you links to assist you, and yet all you've done is claim you have proof without providing it, even after getting challenged to do so. Show me people saying "I am using a script" or stop saying people have and STFU. Show me where!

quote:
Originally posted by ns33
Still yet awaiting response from blueflames and rake.


I've been gone all weekend, this is the first time I've gotten to get online since that post.

Respond to what, though? You didn't say anything on the auto-voter subject, and that's what I'm talking about, so respond to what? That click/refresh/click/refresh/click/etc. is/isn't cheating? Both communities have been doing that since minute one, so it's totally irrelevent.

There's also the as-yet unanswered question of whether you can even vote more then once in the first place. Anyone care to e-mail Interplay and ask, or should I?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bobboau
you have people saying things like "I am useing a script",


Where? WHERE? I asked you a page ago, DAYS AGO, to prove this and you have completely failed to do so. I even gave you links to assist you, and yet all you've done is claim you have proof without providing it, even after getting challenged to do so. Show me people saying "I am using a script" or stop saying people have and STFU. Show me where!

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Originally posted by ns33
Still yet awaiting response from blueflames and rake.


I've been gone all weekend, this is the first time I've gotten to get online since that post.

Respond to what, though? You didn't say anything on the auto-voter subject, and that's what I'm talking about, so respond to what? That click/refresh/click/refresh/click/etc. is/isn't cheating? Both communities have been doing that since minute one, so it's totally irrelevent.

There's also the as-yet unanswered question of whether you can even vote more then once in the first place. Anyone care to e-mail Interplay and ask, or should I?

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Is this a challenge MWAHAHAHA IM ALL FOR IT! oh and i guess he must of been blinded but there was a place where someone was braggin bout cheatin or w/e so explain that

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As I've said before, keep it civil or this thread will be locked.

That means cut out the middle fingers, and refrain from burning copies of Descent 3. Thank you.

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As I've said before, keep it civil or this thread will be locked.

That means cut out the middle fingers, and refrain from burning copies of Descent 3. Thank you.

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Why is it that whenever somebody mentions Descent 3 that a huge flame war develops? Why do people hate D3 so much that they create huge threads for it? Why can't we just get along? Is it not possible to love both games at the same time?

I will never run D3, FS1 or FS2 from the original discs, as they are all too precious to me. I make copies on Kodak Gold/Silver discs and run from them to preserve these rare original discs. Can't we just stop the fighting and enjoy our games?

On a side note, is the VWBB slow today or is it just me? (my school has a 512K T1 channel)

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Why is it that whenever somebody mentions Descent 3 that a huge flame war develops? Why do people hate D3 so much that they create huge threads for it? Why can't we just get along? Is it not possible to love both games at the same time?

I will never run D3, FS1 or FS2 from the original discs, as they are all too precious to me. I make copies on Kodak Gold/Silver discs and run from them to preserve these rare original discs. Can't we just stop the fighting and enjoy our games?

On a side note, is the VWBB slow today or is it just me? (my school has a 512K T1 channel)

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We dislike D3 because their community cheated on the poll and come over here and spam our boards with promotions for their game.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rake
Both communities have been doing that since minute one, so it's totally irrelevent.


No it is not. I have shown that the D3 community HAS cheated (although that remains my personal conclusion from the quotes I pulled up in my previous 2 posts). HOWEVER, the D3 community has not concluded that the FS community cheated. You say Bobboau is claiming that the D3 community has cheated without proof, and yet, here YOU are YOURSELF accusing FS of cheating without your own proof. So let me direct your question back to you. Where is YOUR proof??

quote:
Originally posted by Knight Templar
We dislike D3 because their community cheated on the poll and come over here and spam our boards with promotions for their game.


Do you see bunches of people going to D3 forums and posting pictures of FS kicking D's butt? KT has a point: so far as I can see it from these FS forums, D people have made their presence known to a LOT of people by slandering the FS name. No, I'm NOT sure that there are no FSers that have gone out to D communities, but I can say that to the places I've visited, there have been no FSers complaining or putting down D. So do us the same respect and bugger off.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rake
Both communities have been doing that since minute one, so it's totally irrelevent.


No it is not. I have shown that the D3 community HAS cheated (although that remains my personal conclusion from the quotes I pulled up in my previous 2 posts). HOWEVER, the D3 community has not concluded that the FS community cheated. You say Bobboau is claiming that the D3 community has cheated without proof, and yet, here YOU are YOURSELF accusing FS of cheating without your own proof. So let me direct your question back to you. Where is YOUR proof??

quote:
Originally posted by Knight Templar
We dislike D3 because their community cheated on the poll and come over here and spam our boards with promotions for their game.


Do you see bunches of people going to D3 forums and posting pictures of FS kicking D's butt? KT has a point: so far as I can see it from these FS forums, D people have made their presence known to a LOT of people by slandering the FS name. No, I'm NOT sure that there are no FSers that have gone out to D communities, but I can say that to the places I've visited, there have been no FSers complaining or putting down D. So do us the same respect and bugger off.

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Alright, here we go then. I'll use [URL=http://www.volitionwatch.com/vwbb/showthread.php?threadid=8219]this[/URL] thread from this very message board.

quote:
Originally posted by Bigbossman
Come on yall! vote once, shave your mustaches and vote again!



That right there is a rally to cheat, and that was just the third reply in the thread.

quote:
Originally posted by BlackDove
http://www.smalltimerivalry.com/sschost/blackdove/kayser.jpg



Here's an FSer posting a "slander" pic of Descent in just the ninth reply in the thread, and not a single Descenters has showed up yet.

quote:
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Block all cookies from interplay.com (tools, net options, privacy, edit. for those of you who use Explorer )

Either it is steadily being voted upon by other people or I'm rising it alot. I have 22 percent.



The tenth reply in the thread, and already FSers are admitting to click/refresh/click/refresh/etc. voting. I don't even need to go on past this, because this harkens all the way back to the beginning of the poll and proves my point, but I'll finish the first page off anyway.

quote:
Originally posted by Knight Templar
i'll be clicking all tommarow morning as well

I expect you guys to too



KT again says he's voting multiple times, for several hours no less, and we're just on the 13th reply.

quote:
Originally posted by Ulundel
D00ds, I'm writing a little script here for this that would atomatically vote, refresh, vote and so on...I'll release it ass soon as possible.



Here's the FSers introducing the auto-voter idea, admitting to actually developing the thing, and then admitting intent to distribute it throughout the community upon completion. The fact that the community opted out on the idea helps, but it doesn't change the fact that a) you came up with it, and b) you tried to actually develop it.



Need I go on? This one thread on this one message board is 11 pages long, and you've already been beaten. I'm still waiting for your proof the Descent community used auto-voters.

Also, I just e-mailed the interplay.com webmaster about whether you can vote more then once or not, and whether it's legit or not if you can. Will post his reply if he sends one back.

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Alright, here we go then. I'll use [URL=http://www.volitionwatch.com/vwbb/showthread.php?threadid=8219]this[/URL] thread from this very message board.

quote:
Originally posted by Bigbossman
Come on yall! vote once, shave your mustaches and vote again!



That right there is a rally to cheat, and that was just the third reply in the thread.

quote:
Originally posted by BlackDove
http://www.smalltimerivalry.com/sschost/blackdove/kayser.jpg



Here's an FSer posting a "slander" pic of Descent in just the ninth reply in the thread, and not a single Descenters has showed up yet.

quote:
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Block all cookies from interplay.com (tools, net options, privacy, edit. for those of you who use Explorer )

Either it is steadily being voted upon by other people or I'm rising it alot. I have 22 percent.



The tenth reply in the thread, and already FSers are admitting to click/refresh/click/refresh/etc. voting. I don't even need to go on past this, because this harkens all the way back to the beginning of the poll and proves my point, but I'll finish the first page off anyway.

quote:
Originally posted by Knight Templar
i'll be clicking all tommarow morning as well

I expect you guys to too



KT again says he's voting multiple times, for several hours no less, and we're just on the 13th reply.

quote:
Originally posted by Ulundel
D00ds, I'm writing a little script here for this that would atomatically vote, refresh, vote and so on...I'll release it ass soon as possible.



Here's the FSers introducing the auto-voter idea, admitting to actually developing the thing, and then admitting intent to distribute it throughout the community upon completion. The fact that the community opted out on the idea helps, but it doesn't change the fact that a) you came up with it, and b) you tried to actually develop it.



Need I go on? This one thread on this one message board is 11 pages long, and you've already been beaten. I'm still waiting for your proof the Descent community used auto-voters.

Also, I just e-mailed the interplay.com webmaster about whether you can vote more then once or not, and whether it's legit or not if you can. Will post his reply if he sends one back.

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Well, if you consider advertising the poll's existance and multiple votes per person cheating, here it comes...

quote:
Knight Templar: "*goes to pimp over every forum in existance*"

quote:
Bigbossman: "Come on yall! vote once, shave your mustaches and vote again!"

quote:
ns33: "Go out and vote (go on public computers and vote too, although it might not make a difference)"

quote:
GalacticEmperor: "*tells everyone he knows to vote*"

quote:
KnightTemplar: "Block all cookies from www.interplay.com ... Either it is steadily being voted upon by other people or I'm rising it alot.

quote:
BlackDove: "I'm going to school in a couple hours, I'll vote off of all the computers in the time I have."

That's just the first page of [url=http://www.volitionwatch.com/vwbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8219]the first thread[/url] on these boards about it. Not enough? Okay...

quote:
Ulundel: "*quickly hides his 500 votes*"

quote:
Knight Templar: "It doesn't matter, If we didn't vote more than once, then we wouldn't be where we were."

quote:
Ulundel: "if anyone has just one vote, FS2 wouldn't be there, where it is right now."

quote:
Stealth: "i've voted dozens of times and it hasn't moved up much."

quote:
Stealth: "that's what i'm saying! the reason we've got more votes than D3 is because of people spamming the poll"

quote:
Knight Templar: "**** this.. my hands are spasming and they've gone up 7 points in the last hours.. make no mistake.. We need to organise a time where we get 10 of us to vote the biotch to death.

quote:
Bigbossman: "Hate to say it, but the testing phase for my script was a pure disaster."

quote:
GalacticEmperor: "We may be dedicated enough to click for two hours straight..."

quote:
Stealth: "Keep voting, but i'm done. a good 50 votes are mine..."

No proof that the FS community was voting multiple times per person? Get real, ns33.

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