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Whatever it is, the Shivans were most definately around before the official declaration of war between the Ts and the Vs.

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Noooo.... Terrans meet Vasudans. Tensions mount until a diplomatic faux pas turns into hostility. War rages for fourteen years, coming to a stalemate; Shivans suddenly appear and start killing everyone. Ts and Vs unite to turn back the Shivans, but not after Vasuda gets glassed and Sol is sealed off.
On a side note, the GTD Goliath was killed by kamikaze Anubis fighters during the 14 year war.
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Ok, then it wasn’t the Goliath (which ship was it that was destroyed by the Typhon?), but whichever ship that was destroyed was not destroyed by the Vasudans. The diplomatic problems had been there for some time before the destruction of the Terran destroyer. One of the Senators (who had a bad view towards the Vasudans in the first place) blamed it on rouge Vasudan squads.

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Ok, then it wasn’t the Goliath (which ship was it that was destroyed by the Typhon?), but whichever ship that was destroyed was not destroyed by the Vasudans. The diplomatic problems had been there for some time before the destruction of the Terran destroyer. One of the Senators (who had a bad view towards the Vasudans in the first place) blamed it on rouge Vasudan squads.

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Ok, then it wasn’t the Goliath (which ship was it that was destroyed by the Typhon?), but whichever ship that was destroyed was not destroyed by the Vasudans. The diplomatic problems had been there for some time before the destruction of the Terran destroyer. One of the Senators (who had a bad view towards the Vasudans in the first place) blamed it on rouge Vasudan squads.

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Ok, then it wasn’t the Goliath (which ship was it that was destroyed by the Typhon?), but whichever ship that was destroyed was not destroyed by the Vasudans. The diplomatic problems had been there for some time before the destruction of the Terran destroyer. One of the Senators (who had a bad view towards the Vasudans in the first place) blamed it on rouge Vasudan squads.

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Oh. I never said where I got this info from. I got it from one of the FS timelines... (accuracy?) Let me see if I can pull up the link.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
[B]FS1
Fighter- GTF Hercules
Capship- GTD Orion

FS2
Fighter- GVF Seth
Capship- NTF Iceni

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
[B]FS1
Fighter- GTF Hercules
Capship- GTD Orion

FS2
Fighter- GVF Seth
Capship- NTF Iceni

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PVF Anubis- The Anubis is the weakest fighter in the Vasudan Navy. However, they are extremely cheap to manufacture, and are often used in swarm situations to try to overwhelm the opponent with numbers. A few radical Vasudans have been known to load the ship with explosives and attempt to steer themselves into GTA capital ships. The first occurrence of this was the battle of Rexias 4, where the GTD Goliath was destroyed by a squadron of kamikaze pilots. Due to its lack of afterburners and low weapon capacity, the GTA has classified the Anubis as a class D threat.

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PVF Anubis- The Anubis is the weakest fighter in the Vasudan Navy. However, they are extremely cheap to manufacture, and are often used in swarm situations to try to overwhelm the opponent with numbers. A few radical Vasudans have been known to load the ship with explosives and attempt to steer themselves into GTA capital ships. The first occurrence of this was the battle of Rexias 4, where the GTD Goliath was destroyed by a squadron of kamikaze pilots. Due to its lack of afterburners and low weapon capacity, the GTA has classified the Anubis as a class D threat.

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ok,
Apollo & Orion

Boanerges & Deimos

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ok,
Apollo & Orion

Boanerges & Deimos

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FS1 Fighter - Apollo
Fs1 Bomber - Athena
FS1 Capship - Poseidon

FS2 Fighter - Tauret
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FS2 Capship - Aeolus

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Right, DESIGN wasnt a factor, it was the technology. Terran and Vasudan technology was flimsy at best in the beginning, but they worked together to improve their ships. The Terrans and Vasudans shared technology information, not designs.

Did I say designs before?

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Right, DESIGN wasnt a factor, it was the technology. Terran and Vasudan technology was flimsy at best in the beginning, but they worked together to improve their ships. The Terrans and Vasudans shared technology information, not designs.

Did I say designs before?

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Er...yea and nay.

Depends on what you mean, NS33...

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Er...yea and nay.

Depends on what you mean, NS33...

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::Studies timeline for the Terran-Vasudan War Project::
The TVWar was started in 2321 because of something to do with the conversation and Vasudan rebels. There were three cease fires(I think it was three) during the war. One was for elections, one for a holiday (Terran Holiday season fell on the same month as the Vasudan's) and one for the evacuation of the Talnia system before the nodes collapsed. The GTD Goliath was destroyed by Kamikaze Vasudan pilots, but I think it was a GTD Reliant, not an Orion.

The Terrans didn't take any technology from the Vasudans, but the Vasudans took afterburners from us.

I think to Orion being destroyed your thinking of is the GTD Eisenhower. It, along with the most of the 4th fleet were destroyed by the PVD Typhon and its support craft in Vega. This was the first deployment of the Typhon, and the first the Terrans had ever seen of it. But the Vasudans grew overconfident and the Terrans were sucessful in drving it back to Vasuda, and nearly destroyed it.

So, that should answer most of your questions about the Start of the TVWar. Shivans did arrive before 2335 though. They destroyed a full fleet (around 3 Orions, six or seven GTD Reliants, and a bunch of Frigates and destroyers) during a subspace jump. But that was the last time they appeared (As of yet) until 2335. Even if they unfluenced the TVWar, they didn't start it.

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::Studies timeline for the Terran-Vasudan War Project::
The TVWar was started in 2321 because of something to do with the conversation and Vasudan rebels. There were three cease fires(I think it was three) during the war. One was for elections, one for a holiday (Terran Holiday season fell on the same month as the Vasudan's) and one for the evacuation of the Talnia system before the nodes collapsed. The GTD Goliath was destroyed by Kamikaze Vasudan pilots, but I think it was a GTD Reliant, not an Orion.

The Terrans didn't take any technology from the Vasudans, but the Vasudans took afterburners from us.

I think to Orion being destroyed your thinking of is the GTD Eisenhower. It, along with the most of the 4th fleet were destroyed by the PVD Typhon and its support craft in Vega. This was the first deployment of the Typhon, and the first the Terrans had ever seen of it. But the Vasudans grew overconfident and the Terrans were sucessful in drving it back to Vasuda, and nearly destroyed it.

So, that should answer most of your questions about the Start of the TVWar. Shivans did arrive before 2335 though. They destroyed a full fleet (around 3 Orions, six or seven GTD Reliants, and a bunch of Frigates and destroyers) during a subspace jump. But that was the last time they appeared (As of yet) until 2335. Even if they unfluenced the TVWar, they didn't start it.

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