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Would be good...

...

er...

...ne'ermind...

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lol, someone should put that in a campaign or something

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quote:

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lol, someone should put that in a campaign or something

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lol going back to the classical Deus Ex Machina

You gotta admit, some missions are where FRED gives you crappy orders. FS1 for example, you're trying to escort the escape pods to the science station from Beta Aquaile. You have this heavy weapon which takes forever to lock IF AT ALL against a Dragon which can move twice as fast as you. You have I think 8 ships to protect half a dozen escape pods against Shivans with Hornets. That's crapshoot at best circumstances. If you tell your wingmen to go after the fighters, you lose the escape pods. If you tell your wingmen to protect the pods, they get killed bc AI doesnt recongnize the enemy's shooting. If you tell them to engage, same result as A. That's a crappy situation.

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lol going back to the classical Deus Ex Machina

You gotta admit, some missions are where FRED gives you crappy orders. FS1 for example, you're trying to escort the escape pods to the science station from Beta Aquaile. You have this heavy weapon which takes forever to lock IF AT ALL against a Dragon which can move twice as fast as you. You have I think 8 ships to protect half a dozen escape pods against Shivans with Hornets. That's crapshoot at best circumstances. If you tell your wingmen to go after the fighters, you lose the escape pods. If you tell your wingmen to protect the pods, they get killed bc AI doesnt recongnize the enemy's shooting. If you tell them to engage, same result as A. That's a crappy situation.

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*nods*

Yup.

Sometimes it seems better to go over to the Shivans...
They got better-looking ships...(come on, people...Mara vs. Hercules mk.II)

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*nods*

Yup.

Sometimes it seems better to go over to the Shivans...
They got better-looking ships...(come on, people...Mara vs. Hercules mk.II)

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lol

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*wants a Mara*

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I wish turrets on bombers were bigger... and more powerful...

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I dont really pay that much attention to the AI anyways...they seem to do little more than tie up the enemy fighters...I played through the game on every mode...and it seemed they lasted about as long on every difficulty...

I do it like this: when there is a lull in the fighting, ill send the damaged bombers and really damaged fighters home...but im not going to take my valuable time during a lightfight or bombing run to send my boys home. I say, if you get shot down, eject your dumbass out, and float home, cause you suck. as for me, I typically fall to beam cannons...especially the big ones (im always between capital ships and get hit by that lovely LRed or BGreen cannon)...although i have a knack for flying right into that cyclops torpedo...

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I dont really pay that much attention to the AI anyways...they seem to do little more than tie up the enemy fighters...I played through the game on every mode...and it seemed they lasted about as long on every difficulty...

I do it like this: when there is a lull in the fighting, ill send the damaged bombers and really damaged fighters home...but im not going to take my valuable time during a lightfight or bombing run to send my boys home. I say, if you get shot down, eject your dumbass out, and float home, cause you suck. as for me, I typically fall to beam cannons...especially the big ones (im always between capital ships and get hit by that lovely LRed or BGreen cannon)...although i have a knack for flying right into that cyclops torpedo...

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yes...

I thought it was odd that the BFRed was coming my way...

"Alpha 2,3 and four, Take out that -ing beamcannon!"

*One shot later*

"...nevermind..."

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yes...

I thought it was odd that the BFRed was coming my way...

"Alpha 2,3 and four, Take out that -ing beamcannon!"

*One shot later*

"...nevermind..."

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Ahh...just bored. Well, anyway...I'm a tad bit obsessive-compulsive with so many things, and one of those bad habits includes making sure not a single copilot gets killed...and I just can't seem to stand the screams of the ones that get killed. So, do you actually care what happens to your copilots, or not?

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Ahh...just bored. Well, anyway...I'm a tad bit obsessive-compulsive with so many things, and one of those bad habits includes making sure not a single copilot gets killed...and I just can't seem to stand the screams of the ones that get killed. So, do you actually care what happens to your copilots, or not?

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I agree...

But I'd rather just send them back...

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I agree...

But I'd rather just send them back...

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Wingmen are most useful for doing the tasks I hate, such as protecting capital ships from bombs. (They are good at this). This means I get to chase the bombers.

Also, I prefer it if they come back with me.

Having read all of the above, it could make mission design interesting. Imagine having one of your goals being to bring back all of your wingmen alive.

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Wingmen are most useful for doing the tasks I hate, such as protecting capital ships from bombs. (They are good at this). This means I get to chase the bombers.

Also, I prefer it if they come back with me.

Having read all of the above, it could make mission design interesting. Imagine having one of your goals being to bring back all of your wingmen alive.

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