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they gave theyr lives to save a omega class snif for that crate die snif snif it didnt work too good all omegas got wasted in the drakh war 
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Why you say all Omegas were wasted in the Drakh war when that is not the case?
There is no canon information of this to either case, I am quite sure EA and allies did very good job hunting Drakh ships down.
OK, I'm going a little off this time...
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Omega in Crusade timeline is not a bad ship at all. Omegas were constantly upgraded to meet new requirements, and this shows damn well in A Call to Arms where Omegas were much faster and maneuverable than they were in the show. Also, notice that Omegas fired defensive beams instead of pulses in the opening battle, beams have constant power drain unlike pulses.
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Why you say all Omegas were wasted in the Drakh war when that is not the case?
There is no canon information of this to either case, I am quite sure EA and allies did very good job hunting Drakh ships down.
OK, I'm going a little off this time...
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Omega in Crusade timeline is not a bad ship at all. Omegas were constantly upgraded to meet new requirements, and this shows damn well in A Call to Arms where Omegas were much faster and maneuverable than they were in the show. Also, notice that Omegas fired defensive beams instead of pulses in the opening battle, beams have constant power drain unlike pulses.
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Ashrak there probably say a few Omega's nailed during ACTA and assumed that it was the end of the fleet. Let me assure you that the Earth Alliance had and probably would continue to support a large fleet of Omega destroyers. The Warlocks aren't meant to replace them either...so they will undoubtedly be around for a while.
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Ashrak there probably say a few Omega's nailed during ACTA and assumed that it was the end of the fleet. Let me assure you that the Earth Alliance had and probably would continue to support a large fleet of Omega destroyers. The Warlocks aren't meant to replace them either...so they will undoubtedly be around for a while.
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Omegas in B5 are like the Orions in FS2, they're big, they're heavy, and they do a lot of damage. More powerful ships come along but the Omegas will still form the backbone of the EA fleets; not rebuilding any that were lost to the Drakh would be pure stupidity, even if the Warlocks have more firepower. Remember that effeciency and economic affordability play important roles.
Were VPKs the only ships in the Vorlon fleet?
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Omegas in B5 are like the Orions in FS2, they're big, they're heavy, and they do a lot of damage. More powerful ships come along but the Omegas will still form the backbone of the EA fleets; not rebuilding any that were lost to the Drakh would be pure stupidity, even if the Warlocks have more firepower. Remember that effeciency and economic affordability play important roles.
Were VPKs the only ships in the Vorlon fleet?
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The EA has built vast numbers of Omega class while at the time of the Drakh war only about six Warlocks were on the prowl.In Crusade the Omega was seen in quite good shape ...
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Will these missiles in TBP be targetting fighters as well as destroyers/cruisers etc,
I've been trying to persuade IceFire to make the small missiles target fighters. I gave the small missiles the fighter killer tag and a narrow field of view in my tests. It worked well. It makes you feel more of a participant in the battle when there's a bunch of missiles on your threat display and if some of them decide to target you. The fighters occasionally pulling missiles away from their cap ship targets also made the missile strikes and the battle in general more chaotic.
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Will these missiles in TBP be targetting fighters as well as destroyers/cruisers etc,
I've been trying to persuade IceFire to make the small missiles target fighters. I gave the small missiles the fighter killer tag and a narrow field of view in my tests. It worked well. It makes you feel more of a participant in the battle when there's a bunch of missiles on your threat display and if some of them decide to target you. The fighters occasionally pulling missiles away from their cap ship targets also made the missile strikes and the battle in general more chaotic.
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IPAndrews, I disagree.
GODs have their three anti-fighter pulse guns for fighter defense. Missiles should target cap ships at their primary target, normal missiles have fighters at secondary target. Larger missiles will target cap ships only.
GODs have been designed to take out capital ships, not fighters. Fighters are not a threat to Earth or any other planet, it requires cap ships to do any significant damage.
I think GOD is now like it should be.
If you suggested to make third Nemesis missile, a small one that targets fighters... I don't know... GOD has only three areas for missiles. Two large silos at sides and one in the middle (around the main gun) where the big missiles are. No room for third class.
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IPAndrews, I disagree.
GODs have their three anti-fighter pulse guns for fighter defense. Missiles should target cap ships at their primary target, normal missiles have fighters at secondary target. Larger missiles will target cap ships only.
GODs have been designed to take out capital ships, not fighters. Fighters are not a threat to Earth or any other planet, it requires cap ships to do any significant damage.
I think GOD is now like it should be.
If you suggested to make third Nemesis missile, a small one that targets fighters... I don't know... GOD has only three areas for missiles. Two large silos at sides and one in the middle (around the main gun) where the big missiles are. No room for third class.
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Originally posted by IceFire
Ashrak there probably say a few Omega's nailed during ACTA and assumed that it was the end of the fleet. Let me assure you that the Earth Alliance had and probably would continue to support a large fleet of Omega destroyers. The Warlocks aren't meant to replace them either...so they will undoubtedly be around for a while.
if you think 90% of the fleet is a little then i agree with you
a lot of omegas didnt stay allive and building stuff dosent take days it takes months and years
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quote:
Originally posted by IceFire
Ashrak there probably say a few Omega's nailed during ACTA and assumed that it was the end of the fleet. Let me assure you that the Earth Alliance had and probably would continue to support a large fleet of Omega destroyers. The Warlocks aren't meant to replace them either...so they will undoubtedly be around for a while.
if you think 90% of the fleet is a little then i agree with you
a lot of omegas didnt stay allive and building stuff dosent take days it takes months and years
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if you think 90% of the fleet is a little then i agree with you
a lot of omegas didnt stay allive and building stuff dosent take days it takes months and years
Most of EA ships were away from Earth when the Drakh attacked. If I remember correctly, Gideon said so in the first episode of Crusade.
But anyway, EA most definitely did not lose 90% of their capital ships. More like 10% if even that. Because most of EA warships were still on their way to Earth when the Drakh attacked, they lost only handful of Omegas.
I am wondering where you have taken your information from?
Only canon information as far as I know is that most EA ships were still on their way to Earth.
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if you think 90% of the fleet is a little then i agree with you
a lot of omegas didnt stay allive and building stuff dosent take days it takes months and years
Most of EA ships were away from Earth when the Drakh attacked. If I remember correctly, Gideon said so in the first episode of Crusade.
But anyway, EA most definitely did not lose 90% of their capital ships. More like 10% if even that. Because most of EA warships were still on their way to Earth when the Drakh attacked, they lost only handful of Omegas.
I am wondering where you have taken your information from?
Only canon information as far as I know is that most EA ships were still on their way to Earth.
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watch acta again they called in all theyr ships who could get there so EVERYONE came and so did gideons explorer he left the mission and went full speed to earth......
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watch acta again they called in all theyr ships who could get there so EVERYONE came and so did gideons explorer he left the mission and went full speed to earth......
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watch acta again they called in all theyr ships who could get there so EVERYONE came and so did gideons explorer he left the mission and went full speed to earth......
If I recall right, they called all ships that were available to Earth, that means that not every possible ship of Earth Alliance were there protecting Earth from Drakh attack.
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watch acta again they called in all theyr ships who could get there so EVERYONE came and so did gideons explorer he left the mission and went full speed to earth......
If I recall right, they called all ships that were available to Earth, that means that not every possible ship of Earth Alliance were there protecting Earth from Drakh attack.
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