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well erm, on Medium my fighters die in 2-3mins.
I don't see the point in playing on Medium on FS2.
you don't get any points for the objectives, just for killing ships.
Also, did you know that you can kill a GTCv on the first mission.
The GTCv Belacarius or something like that.
All you need to do is shoot it once and when the Psamtik destroys the Corvette, you get the kill. 
Also, do you have the auto-matching speed on or off?
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If your fighters dies in 2-3 minutes you need to take better care of them. The fact that some of us can do it without losing all our wingmen shows that it is possible.
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JamieK
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well, how the hell do you make all your wingmen survive so much???
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I kill the enemy quickly. The faster I kill them the more it evens up the odds.
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JamieK
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i have just got up to the mission with the 2 cruisers.
on that mission, my shields were gone in 5 seconds....does it recharge in 5 seconds.!? nope!
I think the computer has unlimited Ammo and Weapon Energy.
Because i made a little mission with 2 Herc IIs.
both Armed with Subachs.....and i made myself invulnerable and played the mission on INSANE.
The Computer must have shot at me continusly for over an hour.....i just got bored and quit.
I even played a fair mission on Medium.
GTF Perseus vs GTF Herc II
Guns: Subach HL-7 Both ports
i don't know how, but the Herc II outmanuvered my fighter and blew me up within seconds despite my fighter supposedly being much more manuverable.
Explain that!
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JamieK
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i have just got up to the mission with the 2 cruisers.
on that mission, my shields were gone in 5 seconds....does it recharge in 5 seconds.!? nope!
I think the computer has unlimited Ammo and Weapon Energy.
Because i made a little mission with 2 Herc IIs.
both Armed with Subachs.....and i made myself invulnerable and played the mission on INSANE.
The Computer must have shot at me continusly for over an hour.....i just got bored and quit.
I even played a fair mission on Medium.
GTF Perseus vs GTF Herc II
Guns: Subach HL-7 Both ports
i don't know how, but the Herc II outmanuvered my fighter and blew me up within seconds despite my fighter supposedly being much more manuverable.
Explain that!
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The campaign is easily winnable on Medium. I'm not sure that I would play on "insane" because I have other games I like to play and "insane" would eat too much of my time trying to figure out how to beat every mission. I play on "Hard."
With hard, I have to play it a few times to figure out exactly what you have to do. Sometimes you have to take out certain targets or subsystems first. Sometimes you have to engage something and make sure your wingmen enagage something else - but the campaign for me is quite playable at medium without being too easy. On one mission the first time through I was stuck on a mission for half a day. Couldn't tell you which one. I went to the 'net for help.
I find out a lot of times when I give up on a mission and go to the net for help, if I play it again I have no trouble. That's before anyone even bothers to respond to me. Strange...
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The campaign is easily winnable on Medium. I'm not sure that I would play on "insane" because I have other games I like to play and "insane" would eat too much of my time trying to figure out how to beat every mission. I play on "Hard."
With hard, I have to play it a few times to figure out exactly what you have to do. Sometimes you have to take out certain targets or subsystems first. Sometimes you have to engage something and make sure your wingmen enagage something else - but the campaign for me is quite playable at medium without being too easy. On one mission the first time through I was stuck on a mission for half a day. Couldn't tell you which one. I went to the 'net for help.
I find out a lot of times when I give up on a mission and go to the net for help, if I play it again I have no trouble. That's before anyone even bothers to respond to me. Strange...
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well, i find it is boring if you are doing evasive manuevers every second of the mission.
It is alot more fun if you have a 50/50 chance......
I have a 5% chance of completing a mission on Medium or above.
Besides, completing the game on Medium or Hard doesn't get the promotions any quicker.
FreeSpace was better in that department..........you got points for each objective you do.....but on FreeSpace 2, you don't.....that REALLY disappointed me.
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well, i find it is boring if you are doing evasive manuevers every second of the mission.
It is alot more fun if you have a 50/50 chance......
I have a 5% chance of completing a mission on Medium or above.
Besides, completing the game on Medium or Hard doesn't get the promotions any quicker.
FreeSpace was better in that department..........you got points for each objective you do.....but on FreeSpace 2, you don't.....that REALLY disappointed me.
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Originally posted by JamieK
Besides, completing the game on Medium or Hard doesn't get the promotions any quicker.
Actually I think it does.
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Originally posted by JamieK
Besides, completing the game on Medium or Hard doesn't get the promotions any quicker.
Actually I think it does.
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Originally posted by JamieK
now that was ****ing rude!!!
I might be a bit blunt here but you're an imbecile for posting this thread
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Originally posted by JamieK
i play for fun!
I would prefer the game to put promotion based on what you do not on how much points you get.
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you don't get any points for the objectives, just for killing ships
You argue that you dont play for points but instead for fun, then you turn around and say you dont get any points; if you're really just playing for fun, then why would points and promotions matter? Especially since FS2 players dont go around wearing their points like badges of honor (as is the case with some games).
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try playing on INSANE and say it is fair!!!
I have, they call it INSANE for a reason you know, I did find some missions on insane quite difficult, but they were still beatable. The entire campaign took me 2 weeks as i was stuck on some missions for days. It was still fun though, and it was plenty -fair-.
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on Medium, Hard and INSANE, the AI has a BIG advantage against the player.
DUH! sometimes you crack me up, the reason why they call it Hard or Insane is because it -is- hard and in the case of some missions, it -is- insane.
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Originally posted by JamieK
on that mission, my shields were gone in 5 seconds....does it recharge in 5 seconds.!? nope!.
Have you ever noticed how little power the Subachs actually use?
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Originally posted by JamieK
i don't know how, but the Herc II outmanuvered my fighter and blew me up within seconds despite my fighter supposedly being much more manuverable.
Explain that!
Well this is easy, the ais are -SMARTER- than you are. Its not the ship that matters, its the player; you can take an Erineyes up against a pack of Ursa bombers and still die if you dont know how to use a ship.
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Originally posted by JamieK
well, i find it is boring if you are doing evasive manuevers every second of the mission.
Welcome to reality, you think real pilots sit still in the middle of dogfights? NO! They'll be rolling and climbing and diving then suddenly banking to get behind their target or get out of its sights. You need to play online sometime, play a few coops and see what the other players do: see if they're cussing out the ais (or mission designers) or playing the mission. Then after that play a few TVTs and get your ass cooked, see if its right to sit still in a dogfight; you dodge for a reason.
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quote:
Originally posted by JamieK
now that was ****ing rude!!!
I might be a bit blunt here but you're an imbecile for posting this thread
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Originally posted by JamieK
i play for fun!
I would prefer the game to put promotion based on what you do not on how much points you get.
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you don't get any points for the objectives, just for killing ships
You argue that you dont play for points but instead for fun, then you turn around and say you dont get any points; if you're really just playing for fun, then why would points and promotions matter? Especially since FS2 players dont go around wearing their points like badges of honor (as is the case with some games).
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Originally posted by JamieK
try playing on INSANE and say it is fair!!!
I have, they call it INSANE for a reason you know, I did find some missions on insane quite difficult, but they were still beatable. The entire campaign took me 2 weeks as i was stuck on some missions for days. It was still fun though, and it was plenty -fair-.
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Originally posted by JamieK
on Medium, Hard and INSANE, the AI has a BIG advantage against the player.
DUH! sometimes you crack me up, the reason why they call it Hard or Insane is because it -is- hard and in the case of some missions, it -is- insane.
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Originally posted by JamieK
on that mission, my shields were gone in 5 seconds....does it recharge in 5 seconds.!? nope!.
Have you ever noticed how little power the Subachs actually use?
quote:
Originally posted by JamieK
i don't know how, but the Herc II outmanuvered my fighter and blew me up within seconds despite my fighter supposedly being much more manuverable.
Explain that!
Well this is easy, the ais are -SMARTER- than you are. Its not the ship that matters, its the player; you can take an Erineyes up against a pack of Ursa bombers and still die if you dont know how to use a ship.
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Originally posted by JamieK
well, i find it is boring if you are doing evasive manuevers every second of the mission.
Welcome to reality, you think real pilots sit still in the middle of dogfights? NO! They'll be rolling and climbing and diving then suddenly banking to get behind their target or get out of its sights. You need to play online sometime, play a few coops and see what the other players do: see if they're cussing out the ais (or mission designers) or playing the mission. Then after that play a few TVTs and get your ass cooked, see if its right to sit still in a dogfight; you dodge for a reason.
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JamieK
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i don't play for points.
but destroying the SD Ravana should get you promoted right??
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JamieK
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i don't play for points.
but destroying the SD Ravana should get you promoted right??
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try playing on INSANE and say it is fair!!!
It is fair if you have experience with the mission, a lot of patience and have gotten experience with the ships and weapons, sure, it might not be 50/50, but you can still win
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Originally posted by JamieK
i don't know how, but the Herc II outmanuvered my fighter and blew me up within seconds despite my fighter supposedly being much more manuverable.
Explain that!
duh, they made the herc 2 to be BETTER than the herk, not worse...
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I have a 5% chance of completing a mission on Medium or above.
its your choice to play it like that. i played fs1 for months before i felt i was ready to try EASY and that was without shields and good weapons. i make sure i can beat the terran and vasudan gauntlets in under an hour eac in a givin difficulty before i play the campagain with it.
The Ravana dosn't have to give you a promotion, the only 2 conditions you are garrented to get promoted under are with a grant-promotion sexp, or playing the game in a way that you can win fairly so as you move upward in difficulty the promotions keep coming
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I once tried to play FS2 on Medium, on the mission where you are too far away to stop the NTF Iceni and the two NTF cruisers jump in, well from the very second the enemy fighters jumped in, there was never a single second where i wasn't being hit by weapons
if you set your difficulty on very easy, and as soon as possible stop moving (if you are) and if you don't move or shoot, you should survive untill the cruisers arrive, just tell your wingmen to take out the freighters and you'll probably survive...
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My Mission in the Infiltrator Wing is to be the best pilot I can be.
You can't do that if you play with cheats, its just like playing solitaire by picking up the draw deck and choosing the card you need from it
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try playing on INSANE and say it is fair!!!
It is fair if you have experience with the mission, a lot of patience and have gotten experience with the ships and weapons, sure, it might not be 50/50, but you can still win
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Originally posted by JamieK
i don't know how, but the Herc II outmanuvered my fighter and blew me up within seconds despite my fighter supposedly being much more manuverable.
Explain that!
duh, they made the herc 2 to be BETTER than the herk, not worse...
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I have a 5% chance of completing a mission on Medium or above.
its your choice to play it like that. i played fs1 for months before i felt i was ready to try EASY and that was without shields and good weapons. i make sure i can beat the terran and vasudan gauntlets in under an hour eac in a givin difficulty before i play the campagain with it.
The Ravana dosn't have to give you a promotion, the only 2 conditions you are garrented to get promoted under are with a grant-promotion sexp, or playing the game in a way that you can win fairly so as you move upward in difficulty the promotions keep coming
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I once tried to play FS2 on Medium, on the mission where you are too far away to stop the NTF Iceni and the two NTF cruisers jump in, well from the very second the enemy fighters jumped in, there was never a single second where i wasn't being hit by weapons
if you set your difficulty on very easy, and as soon as possible stop moving (if you are) and if you don't move or shoot, you should survive untill the cruisers arrive, just tell your wingmen to take out the freighters and you'll probably survive...
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My Mission in the Infiltrator Wing is to be the best pilot I can be.
You can't do that if you play with cheats, its just like playing solitaire by picking up the draw deck and choosing the card you need from it
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Heh, if you think the FS1 conversion is tough, you're gonna have no chance at all at BWO.  (not that the BWO missions are overly difficult, it's just that I never really found the FS1 campaign to be too hard.)
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Heh, if you think the FS1 conversion is tough, you're gonna have no chance at all at BWO. (not that the BWO missions are overly difficult, it's just that I never really found the FS1 campaign to be too hard.)
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