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aldo_14
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Originally posted by IPAndrews
Better done with a special shipname texture name, rather than a decal.
Linkage could be difficult in either case... i'm thinking that the insignia chunk ('cept the insignia size could be a problem) is already handled by the editor, so it could be easier just to adapt that than code in some ship-specifc stuff.... I'm going home early today (no deadlines) just to properly look at the code, D/L borland (and reinstall me pfe) and try to hack in some (very) basic changes to the tbl limits....
wonder....
(this is java pseudo, need to relook at all my C stuff before I can think of coding)
if(shipName.isInTexLibrary())
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replaceTexture(blankDecal,findTexture(shipName);
}
where replace texture changes the texture name with the ship specific one matching the name of the ship in (?)FRED2....
Although, jusat removing the tbl limits altogether would be just as easy, but more cumbersome.
Maybe hacking the ships.tbl parsing to allow multiple pofs to share the same statisitcs?
i.e.
name: GVD Psamptik
model: ppsamtik.pof
name: GVD Heaphes
model: heaphes.pof
...
stats
could be a bit memory intesive RE the pof files, though.
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quote:
Originally posted by IPAndrews
Better done with a special shipname texture name, rather than a decal.
Linkage could be difficult in either case... i'm thinking that the insignia chunk ('cept the insignia size could be a problem) is already handled by the editor, so it could be easier just to adapt that than code in some ship-specifc stuff.... I'm going home early today (no deadlines) just to properly look at the code, D/L borland (and reinstall me pfe) and try to hack in some (very) basic changes to the tbl limits....
wonder....
(this is java pseudo, need to relook at all my C stuff before I can think of coding)
if(shipName.isInTexLibrary())
{
replaceTexture(blankDecal,findTexture(shipName);
}
where replace texture changes the texture name with the ship specific one matching the name of the ship in (?)FRED2....
Although, jusat removing the tbl limits altogether would be just as easy, but more cumbersome.
Maybe hacking the ships.tbl parsing to allow multiple pofs to share the same statisitcs?
i.e.
name: GVD Psamptik
model: ppsamtik.pof
name: GVD Heaphes
model: heaphes.pof
...
stats
could be a bit memory intesive RE the pof files, though.
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a mission-end SEXP would be enough.
Our main TBP-campaign could REALLY need it. Its stupid you
have to jump out to end mission....
This is the most important improvement for us.
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a mission-end SEXP would be enough.
Our main TBP-campaign could REALLY need it. Its stupid you
have to jump out to end mission....
This is the most important improvement for us.
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another thing that would be really nice would be to have no limit to the number of sound effects (or atleast a higher limit)
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and remove the limits for events and radio messages in a fs2 mission !!!!!
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Oh, there should definately be some way to alter capital ship AI so it can choose between broadsiding (Terran / Vasudan) or attacking from the front (Shivans, esp. Sathanas). Not sure how possible it is, unless you use special ahardcoded values in the ai.tbl to dictate it(?) - 101-199?
That would have a HUGE impact on the way we could do the WhiteStar's in TBP.
Sandwich: The Golgotha we can script fairly nicely. Plus it has broadside beams for just such an occasion.
Note on fighter beams: Do them properly. Make sure that a maximum range for damage can be set (otherwise someone can pick off a capital ship in a fighter at infinite range)...I know the beam travels, but prevent damage from being done.
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Oh, there should definately be some way to alter capital ship AI so it can choose between broadsiding (Terran / Vasudan) or attacking from the front (Shivans, esp. Sathanas). Not sure how possible it is, unless you use special ahardcoded values in the ai.tbl to dictate it(?) - 101-199?
That would have a HUGE impact on the way we could do the WhiteStar's in TBP.
Sandwich: The Golgotha we can script fairly nicely. Plus it has broadside beams for just such an occasion.
Note on fighter beams: Do them properly. Make sure that a maximum range for damage can be set (otherwise someone can pick off a capital ship in a fighter at infinite range)...I know the beam travels, but prevent damage from being done.
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It's still heresy. What's the point of running a PC game on a PS2, when you have a perfectly good PC?
1. AFAIK no 256x256 texture limits on it's graphics system. (I use a Voodoo3 2000.)
2. I think it'd be cool to play it on my TV with a DualShock 2 and keyboard.
3. To see if we can.
People want to run DOOM/Quake games on the PS2 (and under Linux in general) so why not FS2? Like I said, if we ever get a Linux version using Open GL and SDL I will try compiling it and running it under the kit. Just to see if it will run.
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It's still heresy. What's the point of running a PC game on a PS2, when you have a perfectly good PC?
1. AFAIK no 256x256 texture limits on it's graphics system. (I use a Voodoo3 2000.)
2. I think it'd be cool to play it on my TV with a DualShock 2 and keyboard.
3. To see if we can.
People want to run DOOM/Quake games on the PS2 (and under Linux in general) so why not FS2? Like I said, if we ever get a Linux version using Open GL and SDL I will try compiling it and running it under the kit. Just to see if it will run.
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for fighter beams why don't we have a maximum range (beond this it won't render or od damage), a start alpha, and end alpha, so we can make it fade, would be nice if damage was atenuated along this too
oh, someone make this quick, or I'm gona explode
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for fighter beams why don't we have a maximum range (beond this it won't render or od damage), a start alpha, and end alpha, so we can make it fade, would be nice if damage was atenuated along this too
oh, someone make this quick, or I'm gona explode
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3 things:
-Larger .tbl files; it very anoying to only be able to add 3 or 4 new ships when you want to have 3 or four mods installed at once.
-Fighter Beams: ok, so its been said but it would be really cool.
-Beams that build on one another: Ok so I sould post this in the TBP board but im here so it will be too. Make beams that can fire together to produce a single larger beam. Like with the Excalibur on Crusade.
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3 things:
-Larger .tbl files; it very anoying to only be able to add 3 or 4 new ships when you want to have 3 or four mods installed at once.
-Fighter Beams: ok, so its been said but it would be really cool.
-Beams that build on one another: Ok so I sould post this in the TBP board but im here so it will be too. Make beams that can fire together to produce a single larger beam. Like with the Excalibur on Crusade.
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a way to keep from overwrite ship and weps tbl files everytime you have a new mod ( adn i dont mean moveing from one directory to another:P:P)
camp manager, mod manager, automated fighter turrets or manual controlled turrets fer fighters, the ability to fly cap ships (to powerful??) BLACK HOLE WEAPONRY!!! SMARTER AI
i do like the idea of putting a name on the side of the ship
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a way to keep from overwrite ship and weps tbl files everytime you have a new mod ( adn i dont mean moveing from one directory to another:P:P)
camp manager, mod manager, automated fighter turrets or manual controlled turrets fer fighters, the ability to fly cap ships (to powerful??) BLACK HOLE WEAPONRY!!! SMARTER AI
i do like the idea of putting a name on the side of the ship
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Zeronet
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quote:
Originally posted by Mewgen1
3 things:
-Beams that build on one another: Ok so I sould post this in the TBP board but im here so it will be too. Make beams that can fire together to produce a single larger beam. Like with the Excalibur on Crusade.
Smart modding could do that, have all the beams fire at an invisible object in front of it, when the beams hit have the invisible object fire another larger beam, along with a primary which fires in on itselfs creating a bubble to hide the "mess".
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