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Originally posted by Mr. Fury

Here's [URL=http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fury/misc/debugspew.txt]Debug Spew[/URL] if you like to take a look at it.

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Yeah, I noticed the VRAM thing too.
And no I haven't tried it without highres textures and registry tweaks, I need to find original values from somewhere then...

Later.

Edit: Oh yeah, perhaps I should give my specs in case Bobboau does not use HLP's tester list (or whatever it is called).

OS: WinXP
GFX: GF3Ti200 64MB DDR
CPU: AMD TB 1,2 GHz
RAM: 256,256,128 =640 MB 133 MHz SDRAM

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Yeah, I noticed the VRAM thing too.
And no I haven't tried it without highres textures and registry tweaks, I need to find original values from somewhere then...

Later.

Edit: Oh yeah, perhaps I should give my specs in case Bobboau does not use HLP's tester list (or whatever it is called).

OS: WinXP
GFX: GF3Ti200 64MB DDR
CPU: AMD TB 1,2 GHz
RAM: 256,256,128 =640 MB 133 MHz SDRAM

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ya that debug string is from deep within the bowels of the D3D texture cacheing vode, wich I have no experience with,
the code is suposedly suposed to resize textures that are too big for Vram, but I guess it isn't,
maybe whatever FS uses to find how much you're card can handel doesn't work on the newer cards, I'd like to know if anyone with a GF type card is able to run this, also WinXP, and both, and nither,
so basicly everyone try to run it and tell me how you do and what type of card you have and what operating system you're running,
though I probly won't be able to fix it someone else might
and for the record I'm useing

win 98
S3 savage 4 8Mb (yes eight megabytes of Vram)
P3 450Mhz
224Mb RAM

and the crash, does it just crash out to desktop, give an error mesage, have the old "this program has performed an illegal operation..." (and if so is there a debug option, won't do you any good, but it might hap narow down posabilities), or is that "has encountered a problem" it (I can't find that error mesage anywere in the code so I'm guessing thats from windows)

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ya that debug string is from deep within the bowels of the D3D texture cacheing vode, wich I have no experience with,
the code is suposedly suposed to resize textures that are too big for Vram, but I guess it isn't,
maybe whatever FS uses to find how much you're card can handel doesn't work on the newer cards, I'd like to know if anyone with a GF type card is able to run this, also WinXP, and both, and nither,
so basicly everyone try to run it and tell me how you do and what type of card you have and what operating system you're running,
though I probly won't be able to fix it someone else might
and for the record I'm useing

win 98
S3 savage 4 8Mb (yes eight megabytes of Vram)
P3 450Mhz
224Mb RAM

and the crash, does it just crash out to desktop, give an error mesage, have the old "this program has performed an illegal operation..." (and if so is there a debug option, won't do you any good, but it might hap narow down posabilities), or is that "has encountered a problem" it (I can't find that error mesage anywere in the code so I'm guessing thats from windows)

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On W9x it's "illegal operation" but in W2k/XP it is "has encountered a problem". Same thing.

Technical error report window does not allow copy&pasting, but in my opinion it does not have anything useful information though, but that's just me.

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On W9x it's "illegal operation" but in W2k/XP it is "has encountered a problem". Same thing.

Technical error report window does not allow copy&pasting, but in my opinion it does not have anything useful information though, but that's just me.

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When it crashed back to the desktop I went into the
debugger and it had the message:

User breakpoint called from code at 0x46e2cb

Doesn't mean anything to me but maybe it'll mean something
to you.

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When it crashed back to the desktop I went into the
debugger and it had the message:

User breakpoint called from code at 0x46e2cb

Doesn't mean anything to me but maybe it'll mean something
to you.

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O.K. I followed instructions to the letter and came up with this upon starting your FS3 thing.

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O.K. I followed instructions to the letter and came up with this upon starting your FS3 thing.

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it's reading the wrong wepons table, look to make sure you don't have one somewere like the root directory that would get priority

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it's reading the wrong wepons table, look to make sure you don't have one somewere like the root directory that would get priority

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Is there a special trick with the table to get it to work? A line, a formatting?

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Is there a special trick with the table to get it to work? A line, a formatting?

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no, just use the new tables in place of the old TBP tables and run the EXE and it should work, those int list warnings means it was told to find and store the weapon with a name and it couldn't find the name in the weapons table, it's used with weapons compatability and defaults, if you look at them you'll see that these are the alowed, default, and dogfight weapons for the Aurora starfurry, then becase it couldn't find any of the weapons that are supoed to be it triggered an assertion to insure all ships have at least one primary weapon, and assertion failures don't let it go on anymore

so becase it couldn't find any of the weapons it aperently didn't load the (right) weapons table

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no, just use the new tables in place of the old TBP tables and run the EXE and it should work, those int list warnings means it was told to find and store the weapon with a name and it couldn't find the name in the weapons table, it's used with weapons compatability and defaults, if you look at them you'll see that these are the alowed, default, and dogfight weapons for the Aurora starfurry, then becase it couldn't find any of the weapons that are supoed to be it triggered an assertion to insure all ships have at least one primary weapon, and assertion failures don't let it go on anymore

so becase it couldn't find any of the weapons it aperently didn't load the (right) weapons table

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I found that some of the interface picts refferenced in ships.tbl Are named differently than those in the actual data file. Example:
$Ship_icon: nialicon01 and
$Ship_overhead: nialtop01
are actually nial.ani and load-nial.pcx in the interface file. If you change the name of the files to nialicon01.ani and nialtop.pcx the problem is solved and you only have the table entries for weapon loadout. You must NOT change the table entries for the interface files or the problem gets worse.

About the weapon loadout. Nial.pof has 2 secondary banks and table only has one. Change tables apropriatly to fix this.

Bobboau, if you send e your e-mail i will send you my copy of the above-mentioned data so you can fix the related probs.

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I found that some of the interface picts refferenced in ships.tbl Are named differently than those in the actual data file. Example:
$Ship_icon: nialicon01 and
$Ship_overhead: nialtop01
are actually nial.ani and load-nial.pcx in the interface file. If you change the name of the files to nialicon01.ani and nialtop.pcx the problem is solved and you only have the table entries for weapon loadout. You must NOT change the table entries for the interface files or the problem gets worse.

About the weapon loadout. Nial.pof has 2 secondary banks and table only has one. Change tables apropriatly to fix this.

Bobboau, if you send e your e-mail i will send you my copy of the above-mentioned data so you can fix the related probs.

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what version of the od are you useing, the interface was aparently changed between the origonal and the 1.1 version, origonaly I used the origonal tables as the base but I just got a copy of the 1.1 version tables done up in the more recent version of the zip I have up

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