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the texture problem is a truespace thing - no worries there

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I think it might be a good Idea to have the solar panels' "rims" be full 3d not just the texture, it looks like it would only add 10 polys per panel, and it doesn't look like that would make that much of a diference

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I think it might be a good Idea to have the solar panels' "rims" be full 3d not just the texture, it looks like it would only add 10 polys per panel, and it doesn't look like that would make that much of a diference

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You're possibly right there Bobboau. I know that Cpt White certainly agrees with you pushed for exactly that. Unfortunately when you multiply the extra polys by 2 sides per panel by 12 panels, it adds up.

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You're possibly right there Bobboau. I know that Cpt White certainly agrees with you pushed for exactly that. Unfortunately when you multiply the extra polys by 2 sides per panel by 12 panels, it adds up.

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yup came to something like 160 polys i believe

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Bah...nothing that a little bit of applied shading on the maps won't fix.........

I've found that - provided you spend a few minutes - you can make it really convincing.......i have a few ships where I'm sometimes fooled into thinking it has more detail than it does

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Bah...nothing that a little bit of applied shading on the maps won't fix.........

I've found that - provided you spend a few minutes - you can make it really convincing.......i have a few ships where I'm sometimes fooled into thinking it has more detail than it does

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simply dont have the res to make it confincing aldo .....its already on a 1024 map.....

and thats not the point - to make it moreconvincingly 3d, the idea is to increase the resolution - ie a generic blue for inside and grey for outside - as it is its not getting much better i dont think


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basically we disagree bob, we the team have agreed its not worth it and are happy with the result and 160 LESS polys for it

the b5 station is huge ppl - i cram as much detail as possible and optimise to the MAX, (not pepsi max type of max )

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simply dont have the res to make it confincing aldo .....its already on a 1024 map.....

and thats not the point - to make it moreconvincingly 3d, the idea is to increase the resolution - ie a generic blue for inside and grey for outside - as it is its not getting much better i dont think


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basically we disagree bob, we the team have agreed its not worth it and are happy with the result and 160 LESS polys for it

the b5 station is huge ppl - i cram as much detail as possible and optimise to the MAX, (not pepsi max type of max )

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umm, actualy shading would make this worse
so it's 160 more polys,
how many polys does the thing have now?
if it's over 2500 then the diference will be minor

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umm, actualy shading would make this worse
so it's 160 more polys,
how many polys does the thing have now?
if it's over 2500 then the diference will be minor

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It may have flaws,it may not be fully textured yet but its still B5

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quote:

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umm, actualy shading would make this worse
so it's 160 more polys,
how many polys does the thing have now?
if it's over 2500 then the diference will be minor

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quote:

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Originally posted by Bobboau
umm, actualy shading would make this worse
so it's 160 more polys,
how many polys does the thing have now?
if it's over 2500 then the diference will be minor

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simply dont have the res to make it confincing aldo .....its already on a 1024 map.....

and thats not the point - to make it moreconvincingly 3d, the idea is to increase the resolution - ie a generic blue for inside and grey for outside - as it is its not getting much better i dont think

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Hmm...dunno.... I've never had any probs with relatively tiny areas of (IMO) shading, even using few-pixel areas..... but it's your baby.

Edit - looking at http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon/Screens_Misc/Screens_Cptwhite/b5ingame11.jpg , you could have a few spare pixels to work with..... dunno from that screen - quite dark on this Pc screen - but it looks all one colour.

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simply dont have the res to make it confincing aldo .....its already on a 1024 map.....

and thats not the point - to make it moreconvincingly 3d, the idea is to increase the resolution - ie a generic blue for inside and grey for outside - as it is its not getting much better i dont think

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Hmm...dunno.... I've never had any probs with relatively tiny areas of (IMO) shading, even using few-pixel areas..... but it's your baby.

Edit - looking at http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon/Screens_Misc/Screens_Cptwhite/b5ingame11.jpg , you could have a few spare pixels to work with..... dunno from that screen - quite dark on this Pc screen - but it looks all one colour.

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how did u get that FPS counter at the top?

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Source code

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I hope you don't mind more source code questions, but this one could be pertinent with all the nice ships and stations you guys are making. Now that you have the code, does that mean you can change that limit on ships in the tbl that you were worried about before?

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