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well I understand that you have no controle over it,
but this is the thing why everyone is starting to turn away,
I mean the game is unplayable in MP

you must know someone who knows someone who might be able to get a new patch started,
you certanly have more sway than I do

the issue is simple, RF loads tables from the UI.vpp
without flagging it as diferent or what ever it would do if it was anywere else

I'm trying not to be overbaring but it realy is that bad

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hey daveb, how's the family life? how's the car? How's life treating ya?

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funny, every time I've played RF mp there have been no cheaters around. Or, at least, no good ones.

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when was the last time you played

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Yeah, the name of the game with FS2 was constantly "how is this cooler than Klingon"? They had some kind of nebula effect sort of thing, and they kept bringing up the fact that Klingon allowed you to fly in and out of the nebula. It was a pretty constant battle to prove to Interplay that yes indeed, we were the cooler game. To be fair, Jim Boone (our Interplay producer) knew we were cooler, but its the producer's job to sort of keep nagging the dev team for this and that. In the end it was for the best. I'm pretty sure we shipped way before them as well. A little friendly rivalry never hurts.

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a lot has been made over the poor advertising of FS2 being repsonsible for less sales than it deserved (especially as it's still rated as best_arcade_space_sim_ever in the games mags I read). Certainly, it had 0 coverage in the UK - I didn't even know it existed, and was actually looking for FS1 when I bought it.

I don't suppose you (or anyone) would know how much the ad budget for FS2 compared to Klingon Academy, or whether the 2 impinged on each other?


Oh, on the side - Fs2's nebulas are still the best ever

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I walked into a store, seen a box(i had to look hard, it had some sort of cloaking system) with a good looking game on it. Remember excellent review and remembered FS1 that i received with my new comp, so i bought it.

About RF, its rather a moot point, there probably wont be another patch so the situation might as well be ignored.

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funny, every time I've played RF mp there have been no cheaters around. Or, at least, no good ones.

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You must be joking right? I play RF multiplayer every day and there are mazing amounts of cheaters. And when they are flying, using speed-cheat, no-clip mode, and fast-firing the fusion rocket or rail-gun they dont have to be good at the game....

The sad thing is that people like me that love the game, eventually will be forced to stop playing it because the sitiuation is getting out of hand. And those people will hardly buy RF2...

I also would like to say I think it should bear some weight at Volition when a well known FS-community dude like Bobboau gets this critical. Especially as he actually points out a possible way to solve (part of) the problem (the UI.vpp).

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nevermind, I counted to 10.

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Covered this 1000 times. Not going there again.

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Shouldn't you be watching CSI?


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well I know going completely off topic is an old VBB tradition but this is related to the topic of this thread,
tell you what I'll stop harping on this if you tell me that someone with the athority to make these disisions has been made aware of the gravity of the situation,
something as simple as
A) asking you're boss,
B) sendiong an E-mail to someone,
C) lieing to me

I honestly don't want to discus this any further my self,
but it becomes unavoidable if I ever go online and try to play,
I've only played RF like three times in the last week and then only for less than an hour (less time than I've spent in freespace over the same time), becase I can't find a server with more than 3 players that hasn't atracted a cheater. now I don't expect you (by you I mean V) to make it imposable for anyone to cheat in anyway, I just want the UI table bug to be fixed, that will stop 90% of the cheaters

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He already said he's not going to say anything else about it. Now you may have a legitamate grievance but bothering daveb is NOT going to get you anywhere. If you've tried regular channels and gotten nowhere, then either drop it or try those channels again. So I'm saying to stop.

I don't want to see it again on the boards unless new information surfaces, okay?

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fine

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It never ceases to amaze me at how people always want to believe the worst about THQ.

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Hey dave, whaddya think about Outrage jumping on the THQ bandwagon? Glad to see them aboard? Got anything planned in some, join effort perhaps? :P

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Well, remember that Parallax did split in two all those years ago. I still don't know why, per se, but one would assume there's a logical reason for it.

edit: ZylonBane, one thing you might consider is V hadn't done an FPS before. Not everyone can come out of the gates with a superb FPS first try. Now, I doubt that's the primary reason, but it is something you might want to consider.

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ZylonBane, one thing you might consider is V hadn't done an FPS before.

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Well that's part of the game industry. No game comes out like you originally planned.

Yes, certainly RF has its problems, every game does. We intend to make what we can better in RF2, we can't exactly go back and change those type of things for RF1.

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My mates getting RF tomorrow , for his PS2.

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we can't exactly go back and change those type of things for RF1.

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