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Jabu
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The Death Star beam is surprisingly accurate. It blasted those Mon Cal cruisers in the Battle of Endor pretty painlessly. It could hit the Sathanas.

And in the third book of the Jedi Academy trilogy, Champions of the Force, there's another Death Star, unfinished, that fires at the Sun Crusher (barely larger than a fighter) and sort of hits it too. But the Sun Crusher can withstand being in the center of a gas giant with no problems

And the Sun Crusher's resonance torps can make a star go supernova helluva lot faster than a load of Sathani

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yeah star wars tech is more than match for anything in the freespace universe - death stars are not to be messed with unless your luke skywalker - wedge antilles or happen to be flying the millenium falcon

back to star trek you seem to forget that the enterprise can out maneuver and go alot faster than even the perseus fighter in freespace - and its weapons are capable of knocking out the engines and weapons systems of shuttles also maneurvering at high speed so the freespace ships would be dead or dead in the water before they even got within visual range of the enterprise hell when it came ot cap ships they could beam a torpedo into the ship and have it detonate all from 40,000km away

the enterprise is supreme - i dont know how things would go between them and the star wars ships since they seem more comparable since they both have sheilds etc but they dont have transporters hmmmmm difficult but the enterprise defiantely has better maneouverablity that a star destroyer faster at sub light speeds hard to say how hyper drive and warp drive compare though different galaxy after all - they can get around there easier but it also might be alot smaller than this one hmmmmmmmm

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which book is the whole sun crusher in? i heard about it alot but just little bits in other books

i've read most of them and i cant think which ones i'm missing

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The whole Sun Crusher deal is in the Jedi Academy Trilogy by Kevin J. Anderson.

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Jabu
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quote:
Originally posted by KillMeNow:
yeah star wars tech is more than match for anything in the freespace universe - death stars are not to be messed with unless your luke skywalker - wedge antilles or happen to be flying the millenium falcon


Or Kyp Durron, flying a small fighter-like ship that is nearly indestructable and can destroy a star with a single torpedo, and if you happen to be near a black hole

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Hehe Jabu said it all.

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Jabu
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More precisely: Jedi Search, Dark Apprentice and Champions of the Force.

Really good books all three of them.

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heres a thought a death star versus a vorlon planet killer - they both do the same job - personally i still think death star it turned alderran into little asteroids the vorlon planet killer turned it into very large asteroids must take more power to mince it up more

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Also, Death Star = HELLA big.

Vorlon Planetkiller = not quite as big

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the real question should be which can turn around quicker after all they both can only fire in one direction - but then the death star has super duper sheilds if it happens to be in orbit of endor

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The real question ladies and gents is what a Shadow planet killer would do to a death star. It's literally built to take them out!

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Yes the death star had huge sheild at endor ONLY because of the generator planet side!

as for the enterprise being more agial than a persous... ha! faster yes, at noncombat speeds as for sheild a good bomber pilot could flt in and under those sheilds and drop a helios on the enterpise's bridge!
back to FS2, starwars fighter are slower better sheilded, = manuver(sp), and better energy wepons, ie use lasers for most kills, freespace uses a lot more missiles! B5 I have seen even less warheads!

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quote:
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The real question ladies and gents is what a Shadow planet killer would do to a death star. It's literally built to take them out!



true but the planet killer unly strips the surfice of all life! dosen't reduce planets to dust
death star would have problems with a firing solution becaues of the 'open space' in the planet killer!

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i'm sure tehy can weiden the beam width or somethign with the death start to take out the showdow planet killer - got to admit it never impressed me - nuclear missles are nearly as good as a planet killing death ray

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a bomber pilot wouldn't get near the enterprise - phasers can target very small things and it sheilds for a bubbles around the ships so no getting through them without permission beside the enterprise would drop out of warp, zoom toward enemy cap ships at 1/2 the speed of light - fire afew torps then warp out - they wouldn't get time to react

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yes but how fast could it fire, think about it, if a dozen fighters were coming how many could it take out before they did mass damage, and the enetrprise has blindspots that the phasers can't get, a fighter could slip in unharmed, and just unload on it.

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A Shadow Planetkiller vs Death Star. No contest there...

The SPK just surrounds the Death Star, launches a few hundred nukes into it, and that's it. Those missiles burrow deep into the ground before exploding, so the Death Star's armour would be no problem. they could in theory burrow into the reactor, and down there just one is enough

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We found out in A Call to Arms that the death cloud does have a structure. Its 100% cannon.

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you clear haven't watched much star trek - the enterprise has 12 phaser arays and the blind spots are few and far between and they are small and the enterprise can move!!!! and fast - also phasers can be fired at many strenghts and the power to take out a bomber they can fire reapedly very quickly indeed they even cycle fast when doing taking down cap ships

hmmmm watch the next gen episode conundrum see little ships being basted out of space so quickly they didn't even get a shot off

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quote:
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We found out in A Call to Arms that the death cloud does have a structure. Its 100% cannon.


Yes but I did heard that Drakhs had to build these structures in order to fully control the death cloud. And Shadows didn't needed any structures except for missile bays.

But as I said, I don't know. But I trust to CtA more than any rumours of course.

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