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Originally posted by thelastone
with all the talk of subspace, i have a question
the lucifier, bastion, and nerid all collosped the nodes while entering or exsting subspace, did the lucifier bastion and nerid only seal the entrances into subspace (leaving the route still there) or did the whole tunnel collaspe?
also what if one of those ships blew en route, not leaving or entering subspace, would that have collasped the tunnel?

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Your guess is as good as mine. I would probably say that a ship in the tunnel can be destroyed as long as it isn`t at one of the ends (the weak points) but there doesn`t seem to be any official data preventing you from doing whatever the hell you want to in your own missions

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to thelastone and karajorma:
As I understand the subspace corridor gets sealed of with no difference wheter it's at one of the ends or in the middle of it. It's only about how powerful the explosion is, not where in the corridor it takes place. I think that the only reason why the Lucifer explodes when coming out from subspace is to make the cutscene more intresting. And the Bastion is exploded at the end (beginning?) of the tunnel because it's remote detonated.

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Weyoun, you really need to play through FS2 again before making your campaign. And this time, LISTEN TO THE BRIEFINGS!

My guess is that the node is only sealed if something is detonated at either end. If you think about it, subspace and relaspace are sort of similar I don't think an explosion would effect either very much.
However, when something is exits subspace, subspace and realspace are interwined and there is a sort of dimensional rift. If something explodes there, it mucks up the rift, and the node is sealed. I don't think the tunnel collapses at all, but it is just the link between subspace and realspace that is destroyed.
So you could maybe still enter the tunnel from the side that wasn't blown, but it would be a waste of time because you would only be able to exit the tunnel at the point you entered it. Or possibly not.

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You have an interesting storyline. Might actually install your demo of it eventually.
As stated with numerous earlier posts, some things are inaccurate in your story, but you have fairly imaginative process it seems.

BTW, Shivans were more advanced or less advanced than the Ancients? I wonder if the Shivans Lived in subspace... perhaps they oblitereated their owen reality, leaving only subsapce.

Shivans have had many times many years to examine the Knossos, perhaps they have incorporated that technology in their ships, allowing them to Jump anywhere. It would explain how they were able to attack locations away from nodes. (think this was actually discussed by GTVA Command in one of the last briefings.)

And it is odd that the Shivans have lasted as long as they have, wonder if they there technology has increased over time. (Lack of anyone to kill since the Ancients might explain why they never improved their weapons, because there wouldn't have been a need to...) Despite the lack of Weapon Technology develpoment, other technology would be developed due to problems, ie, wanting to make a jump somewhere with no Node nearby.
Just a thought.

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Originally posted by Nebukadnezzard
to thelastone and karajorma:
As I understand the subspace corridor gets sealed of with no difference wheter it's at one of the ends or in the middle of it. It's only about how powerful the explosion is, not where in the corridor it takes place. I think that the only reason why the Lucifer explodes when coming out from subspace is to make the cutscene more intresting. And the Bastion is exploded at the end (beginning?) of the tunnel because it's remote detonated.

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I tend to belive that the explosion has to happen when the node is open but since their is no data one way or the other you can believe whatever you want

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Originally posted by ltnarol
I dont think the knossos takes time to stabilize a node, just acts as a sort of door jab to keep the thing from locking or in this case, to make the node stable enough for ships to pass though. I think its more a matter of turning on or off instead.

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I disagree. If it were a sort of door jab, then the "door" would have closed. However, the first Sathanas completes the jump from the nebula to Gamme Draconis after the destruction of the Knossos. Alright, so we could say, "It might have been able to quickly slip through before the "door" closed". Taking that point into consideration, I still disagree because there are missions in the nebula after the destruction of the first Sathanas. Like that ultra-cool mission in the Mara.

Well those are my thoughts anyway.

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