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Perhaps the people of the TBP team wont be making player flyable shadow and Vorlon vessels but I'm sure someone will eventually.
With the source code, and therefore the ability to make major changes someone could make beams that players could fire. And since shodow vessels only have 1 forward facing beam cannon, it could be intresting to make a player flyable battlecrab.
This could be used after the First Ones are released to make a campaign abou the war between the first ones and the shadows a million years ago.

There's my two cents for today.

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Perhaps the people of the TBP team wont be making player flyable shadow and Vorlon vessels but I'm sure someone will eventually.
With the source code, and therefore the ability to make major changes someone could make beams that players could fire. And since shodow vessels only have 1 forward facing beam cannon, it could be intresting to make a player flyable battlecrab.
This could be used after the First Ones are released to make a campaign abou the war between the first ones and the shadows a million years ago.

There's my two cents for today.

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What B5 fan would say that Shadows shouldnt be included. But -- Shadow War was one of the most essential part of B5. I wouldn't wanna miss a thing of it.

But I still wonder how youre going to make the ships stop while telepaths are grinding their teeths when disrupting a shadow vessel pilot

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What B5 fan would say that Shadows shouldnt be included. But -- Shadow War was one of the most essential part of B5. I wouldn't wanna miss a thing of it.

But I still wonder how youre going to make the ships stop while telepaths are grinding their teeths when disrupting a shadow vessel pilot

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Of course, "in reality" there would be no HUD for Vorlon or Shadow ships as both are remote piloted from the mother ship. This method of control allows one (or a few) beings to control multiple fighters telepathically, instinctively feeling for the correct user inputs to send to the fighters. Not very reproducable in TBP but I'm sure that at some stage you'll get to fly a good compromise version of a Shadow or Vorlon fighter.

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Of course, "in reality" there would be no HUD for Vorlon or Shadow ships as both are remote piloted from the mother ship. This method of control allows one (or a few) beings to control multiple fighters telepathically, instinctively feeling for the correct user inputs to send to the fighters. Not very reproducable in TBP but I'm sure that at some stage you'll get to fly a good compromise version of a Shadow or Vorlon fighter.

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hey i thought you said bobo would be included with release 3 ice

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Perhaps the people of the TBP team wont be making player flyable shadow and Vorlon vessels but I'm sure someone will eventually.
With the source code, and therefore the ability to make major changes someone could make beams that players could fire. And since shodow vessels only have 1 forward facing beam cannon, it could be intresting to make a player flyable battlecrab.
This could be used after the First Ones are released to make a campaign abou the war between the first ones and the shadows a million years ago.

There's my two cents for today.

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Originally posted by Mewgen1
Perhaps the people of the TBP team wont be making player flyable shadow and Vorlon vessels but I'm sure someone will eventually.
With the source code, and therefore the ability to make major changes someone could make beams that players could fire. And since shodow vessels only have 1 forward facing beam cannon, it could be intresting to make a player flyable battlecrab.
This could be used after the First Ones are released to make a campaign abou the war between the first ones and the shadows a million years ago.

There's my two cents for today.

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HUDS in "reality": a 360 by 360 view of all space surrounding you from infrared to high gamma ray wavelengths. Indicators for your power reserve? - unnecessary since it is practically infinite. Target shield and damge display? - unnecessary since your weaponry cuts through all things effortlessly. Order list? - unnecessary since you kill everything (Shadow) or kill everything you don't like (Vorlon). Communications?- telepathic. Missiles remaining? - no missiles.

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Originally posted by vengeance

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HUDS in "reality": a 360 by 360 view of all space surrounding you from infrared to high gamma ray wavelengths. Indicators for your power reserve? - unnecessary since it is practically infinite. Target shield and damge display? - unnecessary since your weaponry cuts through all things effortlessly. Order list? - unnecessary since you kill everything (Shadow) or kill everything you don't like (Vorlon). Communications?- telepathic. Missiles remaining? - no missiles.

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B5 was not about a war. It was about as JMS stated "Killing your parents." There is a metaphor at work here, and I think it's flying over some people's heads. But at least it's not dumbed down like a certain SF franchise we know...

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B5 was not about a war. It was about as JMS stated "Killing your parents." There is a metaphor at work here, and I think it's flying over some people's heads. But at least it's not dumbed down like a certain SF franchise we know...

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He's also stated that it's about making choices, the rationale behind the choice, the consequences of the choice and living with the consequences. This applies equally to each character and to each race. Some handle the opportunities better (e.g. Sheridan) and others not well at all (e.g. Londo).

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He's also stated that it's about making choices, the rationale behind the choice, the consequences of the choice and living with the consequences. This applies equally to each character and to each race. Some handle the opportunities better (e.g. Sheridan) and others not well at all (e.g. Londo).

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Originally posted by IceFire

The few random and generally uninspired opinions of people on this board aren't going to change how this MOD works or what we'll be releasing.

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Originally posted by IceFire

The few random and generally uninspired opinions of people on this board aren't going to change how this MOD works or what we'll be releasing.

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don't worry... we do listen.. we just don't pay too much attention to ideas that are either bad or simply a poor use of our time.

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