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Well, losing a Destroyer - with crew of 10,000 MUST be great lose. In FS1 probably stronger since there were no beam cannons and it was really difficult to destroy one (haven`t played, so I only guess).
Hecate must be rare since they`re brand new and probably there were no in the fleet Bosh took.

Some fleets, probably, are significantly stronger and consists of 2-3 GTD with more GTCv and so on and some are probably really small. Say, there can be a fleet designated only to patrol a system awaiting probable attack ( don`t forget Shivans could came unexpected -and the major system should be protected more as distant, no-population ones), with GTCv and some GTC.
(Remember that Leviathan destroyed by rakshasha in Gamma Draconis? GTVA had to move GTD from other fleets to cover.

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Well, losing a Destroyer - with crew of 10,000 MUST be great lose. In FS1 probably stronger since there were no beam cannons and it was really difficult to destroy one (haven`t played, so I only guess).
Hecate must be rare since they`re brand new and probably there were no in the fleet Bosh took.

Some fleets, probably, are significantly stronger and consists of 2-3 GTD with more GTCv and so on and some are probably really small. Say, there can be a fleet designated only to patrol a system awaiting probable attack ( don`t forget Shivans could came unexpected -and the major system should be protected more as distant, no-population ones), with GTCv and some GTC.
(Remember that Leviathan destroyed by rakshasha in Gamma Draconis? GTVA had to move GTD from other fleets to cover.

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The Tech room in FS2 suggests that the GTVA had 26 fleets/Battlegroups. Which would make sense. 13 Vasudan (13th Battlegroup was in FS2) and 13 Terran fleets.

If the 6th Fleet is the standard size of a Terran fleet, then it has around 10,700 personnel in it since 80,000 was around 75% of of it. As long as that was the 6th at full strenght, which is unknown since it was in EP which was basically the front in the war against the NTF. So a Fleet could be maybe as high as 15,000 personnel.

It also seemed that the third fleet was the only one to go into the Nebula and we have at least 3 destroyers mentioned. The Aquilatine, Carthage and another Destroyer that was destroyed in the attack on the SD Ravana. So a fleet has at least 3 destroyers. The only fleet that would have less would be ones that have gone through a campaign against the enemy or the newest fleets (the 13th of both sides, since you wouldn't start a new fleet if you haven't already got a fleet to battle readiness).

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The Tech room in FS2 suggests that the GTVA had 26 fleets/Battlegroups. Which would make sense. 13 Vasudan (13th Battlegroup was in FS2) and 13 Terran fleets.

If the 6th Fleet is the standard size of a Terran fleet, then it has around 10,700 personnel in it since 80,000 was around 75% of of it. As long as that was the 6th at full strenght, which is unknown since it was in EP which was basically the front in the war against the NTF. So a Fleet could be maybe as high as 15,000 personnel.

It also seemed that the third fleet was the only one to go into the Nebula and we have at least 3 destroyers mentioned. The Aquilatine, Carthage and another Destroyer that was destroyed in the attack on the SD Ravana. So a fleet has at least 3 destroyers. The only fleet that would have less would be ones that have gone through a campaign against the enemy or the newest fleets (the 13th of both sides, since you wouldn't start a new fleet if you haven't already got a fleet to battle readiness).

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The Terran 3rd Fleet was probably the only Terran one to enter the nebula since it was the closest to Gamma Draconis. The Nebula was not considered a massive threat since it was believed that the Shivans could be contained there easily (by the time the real threat was realised everyone was evacuating). So almost all of the Terran ships you see in Capella, Gamma Draconis, or the Nebula are probably from the Terran 3rd Fleet, the Colossus escort or the NTF.
The 13th Vasudan Battle Group also went around there because the Vasudans wanted some of their ships in the nebula.

So, looking at FS2, it would appear that the Terran fleets have about three destroyers maybe. Which is a good thing, because Terran destroyers are rubbish.

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The Terran 3rd Fleet was probably the only Terran one to enter the nebula since it was the closest to Gamma Draconis. The Nebula was not considered a massive threat since it was believed that the Shivans could be contained there easily (by the time the real threat was realised everyone was evacuating). So almost all of the Terran ships you see in Capella, Gamma Draconis, or the Nebula are probably from the Terran 3rd Fleet, the Colossus escort or the NTF.
The 13th Vasudan Battle Group also went around there because the Vasudans wanted some of their ships in the nebula.

So, looking at FS2, it would appear that the Terran fleets have about three destroyers maybe. Which is a good thing, because Terran destroyers are rubbish.

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I think the number of destroyers is relative to the population size of the GTVA, and the number of inhabited size. So that's 3 related things, and we can noly guess at all of 'em.

Personally, I like the idea of up to 30-40 destroyers (maybe 2 per fleet, 13 fleets per side), because I like to justify blowing them up.

In the other hand, FS2 tends to suggests there are fewer - less fighter cover, even from behemoths like the the Colossus. Also, the Aquitane is described as head of the Capella-based fleet,which implies that fleet covered several systems. Thus, less destroyers. IMO, a reasonable guess can be from 16 - 40 odd for the GTVA.

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I think the number of destroyers is relative to the population size of the GTVA, and the number of inhabited size. So that's 3 related things, and we can noly guess at all of 'em.

Personally, I like the idea of up to 30-40 destroyers (maybe 2 per fleet, 13 fleets per side), because I like to justify blowing them up.

In the other hand, FS2 tends to suggests there are fewer - less fighter cover, even from behemoths like the the Colossus. Also, the Aquitane is described as head of the Capella-based fleet,which implies that fleet covered several systems. Thus, less destroyers. IMO, a reasonable guess can be from 16 - 40 odd for the GTVA.

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