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Edwin
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I know he wasn't alone. Kosh was in him. well a peice of Kosh.
(you must understand fury. we have all seen B5 enough to know what a Vorlon realy is. To those who don't know, I bet you can figure it out after what i have said.)

To the people that say shadows stay out of their warships.

That would be an insanely stupid tactical maneuvor. Say they all wan't to relocate because their homeworld is no longer habitable. If they all get in transports sure they can still controll their ships but if one transport is destroyed, Boom their gies half their escort. and] there are sudenly a whole hell of a lot of shadow ships to study. They could learn weaknesses in the armor and how to penetrate the armor with certain weapons. so there you have. If the shadow realy did opperate that way they would have never made it as a space-fairung race for more than 20 years.

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Edwin
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I know he wasn't alone. Kosh was in him. well a peice of Kosh.
(you must understand fury. we have all seen B5 enough to know what a Vorlon realy is. To those who don't know, I bet you can figure it out after what i have said.)

To the people that say shadows stay out of their warships.

That would be an insanely stupid tactical maneuvor. Say they all wan't to relocate because their homeworld is no longer habitable. If they all get in transports sure they can still controll their ships but if one transport is destroyed, Boom their gies half their escort. and] there are sudenly a whole hell of a lot of shadow ships to study. They could learn weaknesses in the armor and how to penetrate the armor with certain weapons. so there you have. If the shadow realy did opperate that way they would have never made it as a space-fairung race for more than 20 years.

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You have a point Edwin. Except for one thing. Shadow vessels aren't strictly controlled by the Shadows themselves. At the center of all Shadow vessels (although we can presume that fighters don't need this kind of guidance) lies a central processing unit. In some cases, Human telepaths. But I don't think being telepathic is required. So while the Shadows probably give overall guidance, the loss of part of the Shadow command structure wouldn't immobilize half of the escort. But it would probably impair the overall effort.

This info comes from books and from the series and I think nobody is disputing that Shadow vessels are semi-independant.

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You have a point Edwin. Except for one thing. Shadow vessels aren't strictly controlled by the Shadows themselves. At the center of all Shadow vessels (although we can presume that fighters don't need this kind of guidance) lies a central processing unit. In some cases, Human telepaths. But I don't think being telepathic is required. So while the Shadows probably give overall guidance, the loss of part of the Shadow command structure wouldn't immobilize half of the escort. But it would probably impair the overall effort.

This info comes from books and from the series and I think nobody is disputing that Shadow vessels are semi-independant.

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This I presume would be the primary reason why the Shadows were so pissed off when Sheridan nuked one of their largest cities.


Blowing up a city is likely to annoy anyone, whether they have a birth rate of 0 or 1 million per day.

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In some cases, Human telepaths. But I don't think being telepathic is required


The living being as the core CPU can presuably be anyone who can be 'condisioned'. Telepaths can disrupt the link between ship and CPU. A telepath who is a CPU is probably able to block the first's telepaths attempt to disrupt the link. I say probably because there has never been any proof that a Shadow vessel with a telapathic CPU would not be susepable to telapathic interference.

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This I presume would be the primary reason why the Shadows were so pissed off when Sheridan nuked one of their largest cities.


Blowing up a city is likely to annoy anyone, whether they have a birth rate of 0 or 1 million per day.

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In some cases, Human telepaths. But I don't think being telepathic is required


The living being as the core CPU can presuably be anyone who can be 'condisioned'. Telepaths can disrupt the link between ship and CPU. A telepath who is a CPU is probably able to block the first's telepaths attempt to disrupt the link. I say probably because there has never been any proof that a Shadow vessel with a telapathic CPU would not be susepable to telapathic interference.

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Originally posted by Edwin
I know he wasn't alone. Kosh was in him. well a peice of Kosh.
(you must understand fury. we have all seen B5 enough to know what a Vorlon realy is. To those who don't know, I bet you can figure it out after what i have said.)



No, I don't mean Kosh, or any other Vorlon...
(This another person was not seen in the actual episode, but he made Sheridan's success possible)

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quote:
Originally posted by Edwin
I know he wasn't alone. Kosh was in him. well a peice of Kosh.
(you must understand fury. we have all seen B5 enough to know what a Vorlon realy is. To those who don't know, I bet you can figure it out after what i have said.)



No, I don't mean Kosh, or any other Vorlon...
(This another person was not seen in the actual episode, but he made Sheridan's success possible)

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Was this person in a spin-off series.....?

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Was this person in a spin-off series.....?


Perhaps...
But enough of this, we don't want spoil people who are reading B5 books. (At least no more than we already have )

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Originally posted by FlakBait
Was this person in a spin-off series.....?


Perhaps...
But enough of this, we don't want spoil people who are reading B5 books. (At least no more than we already have )

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Perhaps...
But enough of this, we don't want spoil people who are reading B5 books. (At least no more than we already have )



So is this in the books only or is it in an episode as well?

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Perhaps...
But enough of this, we don't want spoil people who are reading B5 books. (At least no more than we already have )



So is this in the books only or is it in an episode as well?

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How about one of you just tell us which book we have to go out and buy to find out.

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How about one of you just tell us which book we have to go out and buy to find out.

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No, I don't mean Kosh, or any other Vorlon...
(This another person was not seen in the actual episode, but he made Sheridan's success possible)




Ah.. you must mean <censored>. <censored> is a great a great guy. The very first and the very last. <censored> saved Sheridans life while he was dying. He also came up with the plan to kill Mr. "We are all Kosh".


<censored>RULES!!!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Fury


No, I don't mean Kosh, or any other Vorlon...
(This another person was not seen in the actual episode, but he made Sheridan's success possible)




Ah.. you must mean <censored>. <censored> is a great a great guy. The very first and the very last. <censored> saved Sheridans life while he was dying. He also came up with the plan to kill Mr. "We are all Kosh".


<censored>RULES!!!!!!

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I kinda get the impression Lorien was actually in the episode, Edwin.

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In addition, you don't do a very good job of censoring.

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In addition, you don't do a very good job of censoring.

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