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KillMeNow
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ok first off if its the epsi i think you eamn the planet was made of a very light soft rock that just crumbles second - inertail dampners - you had accelerate hit thigs do whatever you want with them on you want even know the ship is maervering unless you look out the window

and while b5 might have been better(until season 5) just that doesn't make it more technilogically superior - as some guy put it earlier any star trek ship could roast any b5 ship no prob

and no be honest if you were going to be in a fight for real which ship would you rather be sitting in the white star or the defiant? i would much much much rather be in teh defiant while still out of weapons range of the whitestar the defiant would launcha single torpedo - bye bye whitestar

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I think it would be neat to see an assimilated Vorlon or Shadow....

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I think it would be neat to see an assimilated Vorlon or Shadow....



shadow téch is some mean ****, (remember that one ep of b5? )

i think shadows would assimilate the b0rg

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This is pointless

the shows are too different to compare as you guys are.

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This is pointless

the shows are too different to compare as you guys are.



yes exactly! whats the point of sayin which ships of the shows are more powerful? It dont matter, they're never gone fight or anything .
Bab5 is better then trek and that's all that matters

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the trek movies are good and the shows suck... the bab5 shows are good and the movies suck lmao

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Thats a huge and massive overgeneralization.

Alot of Star Trek TV episodes from all of the series are really good....while Star Trek 5 (Particularly) is probably the worst imaginable. On the other side, Babylon 5 movies In The Beginning and A Call to Arms were excellent productions.

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i think In the beginning and a call to arms were excellant
i liked thirdspace but hated River of souls.
Most trek movies are good but some are just rubbish .

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Star Trek would kick the crap out of B5. They have better weopons and technology. I mean, well, a shuttel could destroy any ship, just have the AI fly the puppy into a vorlon dreadnaught at warp and *POOF* vorlon gone. I've argued this with my friend and he always brings up the vorlon panetkiller, and I have only two words for that "Genisis torpedo". And speacies 8472 would kick the **** out of any vorlon or shadow. As for the Enterprise D its more around 700m, but can still kick the cr@p out of any Minbari.

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pfffffffffff why do you even compare both sci-fi series??
they were made up following 2 completely philosofies.
Star trek is capital ships VS capital ships while B5 is more open minded to a variety of scenarios(this is star trek aquilies heel).It doesn make any sense comparing both. theres no way to find a point of reference for compare the 2. i'm surprised how many people made so much speculation on this and for what purpose? are you gonna fly a klingon stelth cruiser agains a vorlon fighter???

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Star Trek would kick the crap out of B5. They have better weopons and technology. I mean, well, a shuttel could destroy any ship, just have the AI fly the puppy into a vorlon dreadnaught at warp and *POOF* vorlon gone. I've argued this with my friend and he always brings up the vorlon panetkiller, and I have only two words for that "Genisis torpedo". And speacies 8472 would kick the **** out of any vorlon or shadow. As for the Enterprise D its more around 700m, but can still kick the cr@p out of any Minbari.


*points at j00*

right.

and you dont even bother to back that BS claim up.

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the trek tech is obviously superior - there is no questioning that - they have transported which could beam torps onto the enmy bridge - they have repilcators - they have ertiial dampning in the shuttles etc and so any kinda of manuver is possible - as for the vorlong planet killer forget the genesis torpedo give me one of sorans torpedos and lets go vaping star systems. but i'm being drawn in again they are completely differnt so trust your eyes - and what does that tell you shields rule

ohhh adn those watching dsn would know that the federation does have fighters they are jsut bigger than fs ones aprox 3 man crew with small lving accomadations - cause theya re independant ships dont rely ona carrier - much like teh delta flyer
which is another example of federation fighters - along with the sporty looking shuttles

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ROFL

Sorry IceFire! It was ment that way...

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*sigh*

federation ships cant get lock on minbari vessels because of the stealth tech and the hull density on those ships (which is FAR more denser than any of feds) will also bring some trouble the the transporters.

STs tech may be more advanced on some parts (med) but then again nanites are a word that feds cant handle well.

B5s weaponry and armour are FAR more better and stronger than STs , there is no questioning in that.

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Mackie I have one word for you HA!
ST can track a minbari on sensors, even if they cant they can still spot it visually. The thickness doesnt matter, in "STAR TREK II: The Wrath of Kahn" they transported deep into a planet so a War Cruiser would be no problem. I have so many stratagies for star trek, like transporting a torpedo into the middle of a ship, locking onto a ship with to tractor beams and ripping it to shreds, anything you guys say I have a stratagy to beat it.

Oh yeah the Breen, they can suck the energy out of any ship. They did beat the Federation,Romulan,and Klingon fleets in one battle.

KillMeNow when you say fighter you dont mean a runabout do you, or do you mean the ones in that episode where they battled the Breen? Do you know the episode name with large battles like the Breen one, the Jem'hadar and Cardasians capture DS9, or when the Cardassians turn aginst the dominion. I cant remember the names but they where good ones.



ST is also coming out with a new show and I think another movie!

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From what I remember from a couple of sites i have visited, the power of ether quantum or photon torps have never been stated, and through scientific extrapolation it was dtermined that the shields of a galaxy class starship are rather weak compared to the weapons in B5, as are the phasers. the laser cannon in the Omega can slice straight through the shields and hit the hull with one shot.
of course this is all from several months or even a few years ago.

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Mackie I have one word for you HA!
ST can track a minbari on sensors, even if they cant they can still spot it visually. The thickness doesnt matter, in "STAR TREK II: The Wrath of Kahn" they transported deep into a planet so a War Cruiser would be no problem. I have so many stratagies for star trek, like transporting a torpedo into the middle of a ship, locking onto a ship with to tractor beams and ripping it to shreds, anything you guys say I have a stratagy to beat it.

Oh yeah the Breen, they can suck the energy out of any ship. They did beat the Federation,Romulan,and Klingon fleets in one battle.

ST is also coming out with a new show and I think another movie!



right.

and what does this have to do with how thick is sharlins hull ? it may easily be thicker than the ground.

u suggest that dumbfire without lock on would help?

again the stealth, cant get a lock on with tractor beams.

why do you think that breen could suck energy out of sharlins? the ships they SUCKED on were far inferior to a sharlin.

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From what I remember from a couple of sites i have visited, the power of ether quantum or photon torps have never been stated, and through scientific extrapolation it was dtermined that the shields of a galaxy class starship are rather weak compared to the weapons in B5, as are the phasers. the laser cannon in the Omega can slice straight through the shields and hit the hull with one shot.
of course this is all from several months or even a few years ago.



exactly, this is still true.

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still its doesnt make not to create ST biased rendering for the local trekkies

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sorry about the file size, i couldnt reduce the quality a bit

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So Mackie you are saying 8 meters of minbari hull is thicker than 2Km of solid rock? Dumbfire would help cuz a minbari cant hold up aginst photons!
The Breen sucked on Romulans, they have a better ship with more powerful weapons and reactors, and the Breen still beat them!
Since you said that I'll unleash my ultamite tactic, the Klingon bird-of-prey from STAR TREK VI outfitted with interphase cloak!HA!

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