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GTVA would blatantly send in a fenris with a big "dont shoot me" sign on it

accompanied by some hercules's

Another thing how much in tonnage is a collosus 1 mil tonnes?

that is about the yearly output of iron ore in china or america

you dont have to strip mine an ENTIRE planet to build a collosus, assembly was the time consuming issue not gathering resources.

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Gawd, the [C], a million tons? Maybe if it was puffed styrofoam.....

I'd say a couple hundred million tons at the least, seeing as the armor is likely quite dense and thick.

And don't forget it's not iron, the hull composition is probably something like collapsed-shell molybdenum, which is not only rarer, but also has to go through the shell-collapsing industrial process.

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Neptune is on the outside of our gallexy, and so would be useless to protect anyware. Ships might have to travel over the other side of the galexy to fend of attackers.

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Back on topic, whoever said that Neptune would be a great base is right. It's a virtual Area 51. No traffic would be out that far, and any that is, would be turned away many many clicks from it.

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no, neptune is not the perfect place for a military base, pluto is. pluto is a solid planet, has a solid moon (though is almost large enough that it could be a planet compared to pluto), and is so far out there that no one would want to go there. also, anything built there can be tested with out anyone seeing it.

neptune on the other hand, has quite an intersting collection of moons, in addition, it would be a great source for a large number of different compounds. pluto, wich i believe to be a worthless lump of rock, would very quickly lose interest in the eyes of scientist and would be very quickly designated a scentific curiosity by everyone an then ignored.

the military would probably have a garrison, a listening post, research facilities, and a small colection of shipyards and manufacturing facilities for small production runs of advanced ships and fighters as well as prototypes.

neptune would most likley have a couple of mining outposts as well as a small scientific outpost. And though it might not have a large colony, it might have a small to medioum sized hapitat for the miners and scientists to live on as well as a small number of other people who like living in such isolated areas. oh, and it would also have a small garrison, wich would probably be larger since the jump node collapsed.

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The outer system is a good place to mine petrochemicals though.... something we'll need for plastics, etc.

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First off, Pluto's being a planet is debatable.

It is the largest object within the Kuiper Belt-Oort Cloud, however several objects of equal or slightly smaller mass have been found in recent years within similar orbits.

Now how I see it is if Pluto is counted as a planet, Ceres must be due to it's being so much more massive than other asteroids as compared to Pluto and it's siblings in ratio. Ceres isn't counted as one, so Pluto ain't no planet

On FS-wise, read Plasma's Phantom, the GTI uses Pluto as a base of operations for more covert and Area 51 style X-Files action.

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What's the link oh wise one

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just because the sol system has no jump nodes doesnt mean that ships can no longer peform in system jumps.

It doesnt matter where the base is as long as its far enough away from other planets so that they cant spy on it or ships can use the planet for cover while they spy on it.

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I wonder if Sol has AWAcs... if not, we'll send setekh

ok, back on topic.

Sol weaponry:

Large plasma pulse guns? Or a glimmer of beam technology, maybe in it's infancy?

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Mybe with subspace, a trip to Neptune would not be viable... look, who want's to go see a big ball of Gas?? Even if the solars would want they would go see uranus that is almost the same collor Pluto is too small for a big military base... but is viable too, cause really no one wants to see a big dark rock...

Mr Carrot: I agree with you that a planet has many resources, but hey: the campaign takes place in almost 2400, right? Earth has been being ripped of resources 400 years or more... Let's say that the rest of the planets are all being explored 300 years ago... Sol is alone for about 80 years... with all the technology that Sol possesses, they can finish all the planets resources pretty quickly... and notice that all the outer rim planets are made of gas= less metal alloys...
See my point of view?

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Neptune is a gas planet. So it has Alot of fuel. Ideal for a military base, its out of the way, easy to refuel ships.

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Sol Military chose Neptune as one of its larger military facilities for several reasons.

First, its position relates best to the position of the collapsed jump node and is therefore the closest. Earth was prepared for the day that the Shivans would open the node (go back and listen to the FS1 ending). So it made sense to have a base that could respond quickly to any sort of incursion.

Second, it is largely away from all the civilian traffic located in the core of the Solar system around Mars and Earth. So its positioned away from the prying eyes of the media and public.

Resources are a lesser concern but there.

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Hello, this is my first post.

Wouldn't Sol have stationary weapon systems like the Mjolnir and placed hundreds of them around the collapsed jump nude. If anything came through it even a sathranas or lucifer would get killed quickly. It's a lot harder to kill many small objects than one big one

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Well... Ice basically said what I thought, but was unable to clarify enough... lol


With a large military base there, they may have some ubership ready for another lucifer, or they thought just the opposite of Khonsu, and made many smaller ships.

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Sol Military chose Neptune as one of its larger military facilities for several reasons.

First, its position relates best to the position of the collapsed jump node and is therefore the closest. Earth was prepared for the day that the Shivans would open the node (go back and listen to the FS1 ending). So it made sense to have a base that could respond quickly to any sort of incursion.

Second, it is largely away from all the civilian traffic located in the core of the Solar system around Mars and Earth. So its positioned away from the prying eyes of the media and public.

Resources are a lesser concern but there.

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no i meant in response to some people saying that a base by neptune would be too far away. in system jumps nulify that reasoning.

Also i reall really really doubt that we could have used all the resources from all the asteroids and mars in 400 years.

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First, its position relates best to the position of the collapsed jump node and is therefore the closest.

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I'm willing to bet that the nodes location is determined partially by the planets in that system. So i'm also assuming that it moves...how much or how little I really can't say. However, even if it were stationary, Neptune would still be the closest point of reference for quite a time.

Its not the in-system jumps that make Neptune useful, its the sensor range and the observation capability (visual, gravitational, heat). Some of that stuff they probably can't cram into a nav pod or a small sensor buoy even in the FS2 time period.

Any sort of facilities im talking about would be on the small moons or in orbit. If you want to build ships or resupply them, its not a bad idea to have your resources nearby.

And lets be honest, part of the Neptune base thing is meerly for the visual appeal. You'll see the planet in various sizes (distances) and it'll be a nice visual distraction.

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Also, what kind of gas is it? I can see Neptune being a giant gas tank for capships... or not... depends

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