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ok side note: If commissioned, it would not be "Bastion 2."

For example, there have been like 13 USS Maine's in the US Navy. But they are not called Maine XII or Maine IX, because only one ship with that name can be comissioned at once, ergo, it's called the Maine.

calling it "The GTVA's newest vessel, the Bastion, of the WillKickShivanButt-class," might be more appropriate, but Bastion 2 just irritates the hell out of me because it's incorrect, at least according to approximately every navy currently in existance.

Nitpicky? Yes, but it's something people notice.

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YOUR ALL WRONG!
I dont even know the name of the class it is a totally new CLASS!

you obviouslty havent seen any pics of it...

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I think we have a pic in the United Space forum

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We have some even newer pics in there, but they are big so watch out 56k users....

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Somebody called me?

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For the Bastion being a Hecate, someone must have read Terran Imperium, as I wrote in two recently-comissioned Hecates, the Bastion and Galatea

But yes, it just sounds better to call it the 'Bastion', as opposed to the 'Bastion Too'. Only under rare circumstances will ships recieve a numeric in their name. Examples are the QE II, which, if memory serves, is both a follow up to the original QE AND named after ELizabeth the 2nd.

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let me clear this up. the bastion 2 is just what we dubbed it. it is a new class, and will not be called the bastion 2. see our forum.

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Um Asta your wrong it will be reggered to in Descent of Evil as the Bastion and Bastion2

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reggered? well if you mean referred you may have to heed their advice.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Shrike:
But yes, it just sounds better to call it the 'Bastion', as opposed to the 'Bastion Too'.

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Just go with the traditional FS way. Call it the Bastion Mark II or something.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Shrike:
For the Bastion being a Hecate, someone must have read Terran Imperium, as I wrote in two recently-comissioned Hecates, the Bastion and Galatea

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Oops. Oh yeah, it was an Orion in FS1

And, um, if the Bastion was an Orion class, why call it the Bastion-2 class? I mean, if they made a new Orion class and called it the Orion-2 class that might make sense, but if the ship wasn't a Bastion class then this new one doesn't need to be a Bastion-2 class. See what I'm getting at? I think I'm confusing myself, which doesn't sound great for other people understanding me

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No, you got it right.

If it's a new class, it shouldn't have a numeric. Thus it'll be Bastion class, lead ship the GTD Bastion, second Terran destroyer to bear the name.

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Ok, Ok, the class is a Dreadnaught destroyer, not sure if ispelled that one right...Psycho if you see this, its your call on wether its the Bastion or Bastion2.

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Yeah, what's cofusing about it is that the original GTD Bastion was a ship, not a class. The new "Bastion II" is a class. If the first Bastion was a class, then you could just go the way of the Herc and name it "Bastion Mk II" (as someone said), but that won't work because there was no Bastion class before it.

My thoughts? Make it the Orion Mk II class, and then make the lead ship the Bastion (as was stated, second ship to bear the name). This could be a problem because the Orion class was a Destroyer class and this "Orion Mk II" class would be a Juggernaught, apparently.. but I say screw that, just name it Orion Mk II.

For some reason, I wanted to type that out.

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DO YOU PEOPLE READ sorry but how many times do I have to say this! Bastion2 is not the class its the name! Dreadnaught is the class

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OK there are 3 things we're having here, and someone's confused.

Name: The name of the individual ship.
Class: Name of the class of ship. E.g. Orion-class destroyer.
Type Of Ship: This denotes what TYPE it is - e.g. a carrier is a CV (Or in the Nimitz-class case, CVN, which stands for Carrier, Nuclear b/c it has a nuclear powerplant.)

So the Bastion should be the Bastion (name) of the Bastion-class, and the TYPE is a Dreadnought. (GTDn or whatever.)

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Good, good explanations

Class: Dreadnaught destroyer
Name: Bastion2
Type: Self suporting Capital ship

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Azonic, um...I meant like this:

Name: Bastion
Class: Orion Mk II / Bastion (or whatever you name the class)
Type: Dreadnaught Destroyer (GTDn) (or whatever the GTsomething is gonna be)

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Wow all that on 1 little old ship?
Well guys it is like this.
GTVDn Bastion 2
Icarus Class Dreadnought Destroyer
Nearly 4 km in length, designed to cruise as a stand alone force. She has new weapon systems, Beam reflector hull plating, Anti-cap Hound dog Torpedeos, New Beams, New Anti-fighter Drones, and a Special feature Evasive Sprint. And thanks Iam happy you all like the B2 -PSYCHO

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