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Thousands of Sharlins? I doubt they have more than 800. Same with Earthforce. Its pretty damn hard to crew that many ships.

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Why the EA would win the EA Minbari War!

OK, why did the EA lose the EA Minbari war? outdated tech, etc. well, lets look at things differently, we saw all the damage done to a sharlin WITHOUT beam cannons when the first fleet of EA ships met the Minbari, and inadvertantly started the war. Now, if those were Omegas and Warlocks, the minbari fleet would have been DESTROYED, meaning - no Grey Council, no order to "Destroy them all",the Minbari wouldn't know who done it. giving the EA time to prepare for the war while the minbari organize a new Grey Council.

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For GOODNESS SAKE PEOPLE! Have you never SEEN the official size charts? (The ones Netter Digital RELEASED?!?!)

Whitestar - 475.6 meters long
Omega- 1714.3 meters long


the sharlin isn't on the charts I have, but lets say we KNOW the shalin is at LEAST 1200 meters long

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OK, why did the EA lose the EA Minbari war? outdated tech, etc. well, lets look at things differently, we saw all the damage done to a sharlin WITHOUT beam cannons when the first fleet of EA ships met the Minbari, and inadvertantly started the war. Now, if those were Omegas and Warlocks, the minbari fleet would have been DESTROYED, meaning - no Grey Council, no order to "Destroy them all",the Minbari wouldn't know who done it. giving the EA time to prepare for the war while the minbari organize a new Grey Council.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgh!! not this debate again! LOL
I thought it was dead and burried...this was the first thread I ever posted in... (getin emotional here)

hhm beam cannons...destroying grey councill...hmm ...Your forgetting there were more ships waching the show and no EA ship could deal with them in full battle alert status and ready to fight back.
killing the grey council would work untill they recovered from the shock, and then perhaps no one on this new councill ever knew the religious reason why they surrendered in the original story in the first place.
Perhaps this new council could have a military cast in majority because of circunstances, in wich case no one would give the order to surrender due to religious reasons... you just backfired on your own foot. what makes you think EA would win if minbari weapons are better still anyway DUH!

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Exept only Dellen reconised the earth vessels! no Delen- no target.

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on the other hand again if our fleet had warlocks back then we would have had the firepower and tech to fight back ina proper fashion - assuming we had them in numbers comparable to minbari sharlins - omegas are outclasses but unprepared they could probally take a sharlin but only one and thats same circumstances - unprovoked attack

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Hmm. This is how I see it. I think Earth has a bigger fleet than the Minbari more Omegas than Sharlins, but I do not think that would be enough to beat the Minbari. And if by some chance EA did beat the Minbari, EA would die very fast, they would have very few ships left and the League, Narns, or Centauri could sweep in and wipe them out. Also you have to remember that the ISA HQ is on Minbar, in the capital city no less so the EA would have to deal with the ISA ships and most likly the league would send ships to fight. I know EA dose not have Vorlon tech I know the Minari dose and I imagine they can make it, if EA can make shadow armour. Now the Sharlins have the same armour as the Victory destroyers have(which will refract %80 of all know energy weapons), and all the Vorlon tech they are using in the Victorys came from the Minbari. They said in a season 5 show that races have already sent ships to the vorlon homeworld and got blown out of the sky by the defense grid so EA could not have gotten it them sevles. EA's omegas are no mach for the whitestar fleet as we saw in the EA civil war, the whitestar fleet NEVER lost a fight to the omegas or omega-Xs. We also saw Sharlins blowing shadows ships up, I dont think a omega could do that. Now the Shadow hybrid we saw, I heird that EA lost control of it, and as said before using shadow ships (even hybrids, and the one I saw did not look like it had much EA tech in it) would spell doom for EA. I really dont care what anyone else says I dont think EAs fighters even the new thunderbolts can mach a nail in combat, but the thunderbolts come close I think they are the second best fighter from the younger races. Nails are faster, more agile, and have more poweful weapons. Something else is the Centauri never tried to fight the Minbari and they where more advanced than us when they came to earth. I also seem to remember this, “Ah stupidity and arrogance all in the same package how efficient of you.” and “I only hope in your stumbling around you do not wake the dragon, good day.” I also seem to remember the Minbari fighting the shadows 1000years ago, before we even got into space. One last thing, alot of you put alot of faith in our G.O.D defense grid, yet we have not seen the minbari defense grid...

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the god defence grid was designed to destroy sharlins - dont underestimate it - its weapons could rip a sharlin to pieces in seconds very little indeed would survive a hit from those beam cannon and those missiles are tought too the victory armour we are pretty sure was developed by humans and is not on the sharlins but the textures would seems to suggest its on the warlocks so there and i would also argue that the ea has got its hands on more shadow tech than the minbari have gotten vorlon tech - both have armour but the ea has shadow weapons computers controsl systems from the hybrid its clear they could build a shadow ship essentailly- that tech is not being disobuted thourhgt the alliance the vorlon stuff has been to ea has access to the vorlon stuff remember it was them that built the victory and excalibre the minbari have never contructed a vorlon gun =) and its an EA crew on those ships too

and as evidenced by the fact the nail has remained unchanged for over a 1000 years this suggest to me and alot of other prople the minbari are not fast researchers but in about 15 years we have gone from the baby superpower who was very basic oa true superpower thats tech rivals the best in known space in another 15 years anyone? hmmmmmmm?????

the human race is almost the same as the shadows - we have fought our way up through conflicts and it is that which has taken us to our place in the stars - even delen said if you hurt them they only come back stronger - the exact message of teh shadows - this is why they gave there tech to us but noone else - the vorlon being the mysterious and secrtive people they are only gave the minimum they thought would be needed to defeat the shadows - the ea was just damned lucky the vorlons didn't try and blow away earth cause no matter how good the god platforms are they aren't goign to stop a vorlon planet killer and its escort

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The GOD platforms would be able to stop a single Vorlon Star Dresdnaught. Let alone a whole fleet of them.

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Yeah, why don't they just put engines on the GOD platform and conquer the entire galazy.......

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Yeah, why don't they just put engines on the GOD platform and conquer the entire galazy.......

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LOL!!!! HAHAHA!! And why do you think a GOD platform can take out a vorlon star dreadnought? I dont think our sensers can lock on a a vorlon ship if they dont want us too.

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Vorlon fighters are capable of hyperspace jump, if everything else fails they can just open jump point on GOD platforms.

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Um, against a target as big as that Vorlon Dreadnought, you don't need to lock on, just aim and shoot...you'll hit it.

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Of course that doesn't necessarily mean that you will actually do a lot of damage

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