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The Vorlons also have tried to hide the level of technology that they have so outward appearances aside, they are just as advanced as anything that the Shadows have.

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she shadows are scared of telepathy since i believe they know little or nothing about it otherwise they would addapt there shisp to counter it - and thats also why they had to use human telepaths

and when designing a ship for a game balance is important but in real life ( i know i know ) you wouldn't put no armour on the back of your ship so the enemy can shoot you up there

also i think the vorlons would be cabable of sensing ships in hyperspace therefore nobody is going to sneak up on them and as for the shadows stealth abilities they dont have any - there ships just dont open standard jump points its not any better except to the naked eye its not quite as visable

as i remember lieutenat keffer tracked a shadow vessel in hyperspace because out of visual and (normal) sensor range by a huge neutrino signature

the vorlons rule

oh and a transport did destroy a battlecrab even if it was a small one - heated it up some then rammed striaght through

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Everything also suggests that Vorlons are more advanced than Shadows, and it sucks deeply!

What kind of threat can Shadows even be if Vorlons can blast them from sky so damn easily?

Have you ever think this: if Vorlons are more advanced than Shadows, why Shadows haven't developed new technologies anymore?

It sucks! Shadows are the bad guys of the show and only the firstones are more advanced than Shadows.

Vorlons have their weaknesses and I think it is their poor primary weapon arc and very low armor at back of the ships. As Shadows weakness are telepaths. And Vorlon ships are slower and less maneuverable than Shadow ones, I think even Sharlin is faster and more maneuverable than Vorlon Dreadnought.

This sucks: I don't have any proofs!

*Damn outbursts*

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"oh and a transport did destroy a battlecrab even if it was a small one - heated it up some then rammed striaght through"
- I have a mpeg video of that scene and it seems that the ship that destroyed the Battlecrab was Vorlon Cruiser, not a Vorlon Transport, concluding from the color and the size.

"What kind of threat can Shadows even be if Vorlons can blast them from sky so damn easily?"
- Well I think there are a lot more 'crabs out there than Vorlon Dreadnoughts...

"Have you ever think this: if Vorlons are more advanced than Shadows, why Shadows haven't developed new technologies anymore?"
- What makes you think they haven't??

"Vorlons have their weaknesses and I think it is their poor primary weapon arc - "
- What do you mean by that???

"- and very low armor at back of the ships."
- Again, what makes you think that, only for 'balance'??

"And Vorlon ships are slower and less maneuverable than Shadow ones, I think even Sharlin is faster and more maneuverable than Vorlon Dreadnought."
- What makes you think that??

"This sucks: I don't have any proofs!"
- That's what I think too... try to find some!

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i dont know about this vorlon cruiser of yours - it look just like the transport ships to me - have to watch it again at some point - which was it kosh 1 or 2 version?

anyway nevermind - do you remember when sheridan tried to touch koshs ship a weapon pod sprouted out of the side of the ship - yours not safe anwhere around a vorlon ship they grow weapons where tehy need them

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Can't make any sense of your most recent message Mr. Fury... better luck next time!

"i dont know about this vorlon cruiser of yours - it look just like the transport ships to me -"
- Well it looks like the personal transport but is much larger and usually orange, judged by what I've seen..

"Which was it kosh 1 or 2 version?"
- Kosh 1

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DOC, argh

You won't be part of my Master Plan anymore.

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EEEWK! What the hell am I going to do now

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DOC, shut up!

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Oh no I won't!!! HARHARHAR

[This message has been edited by DOC (edited 03-17-2001).]

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I have a mpeg video of that scene and it seems that the ship that destroyed the Battlecrab was Vorlon Cruiser, not a Vorlon Transport, concluding from the color and the size.

-What!?!? I wanna see it

Well I think there are a lot more 'crabs out there than Vorlon Dreadnoughts

-Not necessarily, almost all ships were destroyed in the previous war, and it seems like Shadow ships takes more time to build than Vorlon ships.

What makes you think they haven't??

-What makes you think they have??

What do you mean by that???

-I mean they have only one big gun, and it is front of the ship.

Again, what makes you think that, only for 'balance'??

-Of course, "there is no invincible enemy".

What makes you think that??

-What makes you think they aren't?

That's what I think too... try to find some!

-Yeah, and I can e-mail to JMS, riiiight.

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A little OT from the discussion here, but I think the whole concept of telepaths being a weakness of Shadows could make for some very interesting missions. Dang, I'd love to be one of the mission editors for the MOD. (hint............hint........)

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This discussion is degrading fast. Bring this to an end before we have another TaS (VBB version) on our hands...

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Vorlons are not more advanced than Shadows, period.

Kuba

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Its hard to say wich is more advanced, Vorlons or Shadows. Their tech is so differend...

Wasn't this discussed at firstones forum?

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Vorlon Transports and Cruisers are essentially the same thing I think.

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quote:

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Originally posted by IceFire
Vorlon Transports and Cruisers are essentially the same thing I think.

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Last edited by Fuzzy Modem on 11-24-2001 at 02:37 AM

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Fuzzy, that's Dreadnought, not cruiser.

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Depends where you look for the names

I personally would call the large Vorlon ship a cruiser and the smaller ones being talked about transport and destroyer. In my mind a dreadnought is an even larger Vorlon ship (as designed by AoG).

Fundamentally the transport and the destroyer (my term) are very similar vessels

Hope that helps in your understanding.

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Oha hold it there remember the Omega-X's dunno about all you but wasent its armor brred or grown onto the ships, and what I can remember Clark wasent in office for a very long time and carncking out 5-6 Omega-x with the humans inferior technology VS shadow ones (yes they got some help from Shadow minions but still)

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