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I have been looking for a Battle of Deneb Mission<Yes we will lose, but just to be there trying to hold the line agianst the Lucifer is the Modivation for it.> I have not found one yeat. So I will take the task myself. I plan on using the FSPORT2 mod for the lucy sheilds, I also would like everyones input on how it should flow. I know that it will not be 100% to the FS2 intro correct, but I would still like to do it for everyone.

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FS1 had the only important part in it, as the intro isn't portraying the true BoD, as the Eva never made it into deneb... the only thing that is canon about the BoD i that the Galatea was destroyed by the lucifer...

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Originally posted by Hippo
FS1 had the only important part in it, as the intro isn't portraying the true BoD, as the Eva never made it into deneb... the only thing that is canon about the BoD i that the Galatea was destroyed by the lucifer...

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That wasn't the Galatea

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but the FS2 intro isn't canon, nothing there can be belived...

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You mean like the Hades crashed down on the planet?
... the hercules almost intact!! after a fall like that (not to mention reentry!), but still can blow up after being shot by a couple of missiles?

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Originally posted by Hippo
but the FS2 intro isn't canon, nothing there can be belived...

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Hey, I thought it would be nice to make this for everyone. I started this thread to get an idea of what should be in the mission. If something is non-cannon I'll drop it. Lets just settle down and post positive Replies. I'm taking what everything into account.

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Whatever you put into it, take it out of fs1, not the fs2 intro. As has been said before, the fs2 intro isn't canon.

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Whatever you put into it, take it out of fs1, not the fs2 intro. As has been said before, the fs2 intro isn't canon.

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Why rely on FS1 instead of 2? FS1 claims Sol has 3 nodes, but FS2 only shows one.

(Although...)

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How about this. I make three different missions. First, I make a BoD mission in freespace 1. Then make two for Freespace 2, the first like in the FS2 intro. The other mission like the Freespace 1 with the Fsport2. That way people can pick which pack thay want.

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A time to kill and a time to heal;
A time to tear down ad a time to build up...

A Time For War and A Time For Peace.
Eccl. 3:1a, 3, 8b

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Why rely on FS1 instead of 2? FS1 claims Sol has 3 nodes, but FS2 only shows one.

(Although...)

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Exactly my point. How do we know what truly is cannon if everything contradicts itself?

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Its the Legion. V have said as much in the past.

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From the FS Reference Bible;
In the Vasudan war we learned how to adapt.
We learned how to study our enemy.
We learned how to overcome.
We learned how to survive.
And so we did.

All the jump points from Earth have been destroyed.
But the Shivans can rebuild them.

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I’m told we can expect them again.
But not in my lifetime.
Such is liberation.

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Lovely, now could somebody please tell me why the intro isn't canon?

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The was put together by interplay rather than [V] IIRC who made a large number of mistakes.

Here are some examples

1) Beam Cannons in the wrong place on the Lucifer

2) Crashed Hades on the planet even though the Hades never went anywhere near the system.

2) Shivan fighter chases the Herc and fires lasers from missile points and missiles from gun points.

etc, etc.

There's a whole long list of them.

In the same way you can't take it as canon that the Colossus had 80 turrets you can't take anything in the intro as canon cause a lot of it contradicts FS1.

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1) Beam Cannons in the wrong place on the Lucifer

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Actually, the original Lucifer model (the one used for the FS1 command briefing animations) had a beam structure device on that part of the model. I assume the same model was used for the FS2 intro. Not sure why the beam structure was removed when the model was put into the game - it was probably too detailed for the engine to work well with.

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2) Crashed Hades on the planet even though the Hades never went anywhere near the system.

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We're addressing that in Silent Threat: Reborn.

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2) {sic} Shivan fighter chases the Herc and fires lasers from missile points and missiles from gun points.

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The only indisputable bug (left from the FS1 intro).

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Originally posted by karajorma
The was put together by interplay rather than [V] IIRC who made a large number of mistakes.

Here are some examples

1) Beam Cannons in the wrong place on the Lucifer

2) Crashed Hades on the planet even though the Hades never went anywhere near the system.

2) Shivan fighter chases the Herc and fires lasers from missile points and missiles from gun points.

etc, etc.

There's a whole long list of them.

In the same way you can't take it as canon that the Colossus had 80 turrets you can't take anything in the intro as canon cause a lot of it contradicts FS1.

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Originally posted by Goober5000
Actually, the original Lucifer model (the one used for the FS1 command briefing animations) had a beam structure device on that part of the model. I assume the same model was used for the FS2 intro. Not sure why the beam structure was removed when the model was put into the game - it was probably too detailed for the engine to work well with.

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