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which one do you think is more effective at total planetry anihilation?

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Geez, where did all these Vs-threads suddenly pop up? But anyway, VPK all the way, it blows up the whole planet.

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Shadow planet killer wipes out a planet, turning it into a useless hunk of rock you'd have trouble terraforming. Vorlon planet killer blows planets into pieces so small they aren't even a hazard to navigation. This is a no contest. If you're going to waste space with a vs thread at least make it an interesting one. Like Destiny's Child vs Misteeq.

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Shadow planet killer wipes out a planet, turning it into a useless hunk of rock you'd have trouble terraforming. Vorlon planet killer blows planets into pieces so small they aren't even a hazard to navigation. This is a no contest. If you're going to waste space with a vs thread at least make it an interesting one. Like Destiny's Child vs Misteeq.

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Which would win? Evil mutated ginipig armed with a banana or the atomic toaster and a pile of rocks...

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Which would win? Evil mutated ginipig armed with a banana or the atomic toaster and a pile of rocks...

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One leaves a planet with no life and the other leaves no planet except for an asteriod field, I'll take the one with the biggest, baddest beam--VPK...

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One leaves a planet with no life and the other leaves no planet except for an asteriod field, I'll take the one with the biggest, baddest beam--VPK...

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yeah but vpk is too easy to destroy (by first ones any way). where as is very hard to take out the death cloud as demonstrated in acta (its possible but hard).

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neither cause they would never fight since they are for destroying planets not ships

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Well, feasibly they COULD become entangled in a brawl. In which case it would be tough to say which would win. Despite the VPKs extraordinary resiliance to the younger races' weapons, hundreds of nuclear missiles pummeling it from all sides would probably sting a lot. However, with the Vorlon's assumed advanced sensors, they could probably detect the SPKs centerpiece (assuming they don't already know about it) and shoot that gigantic beam through it. Of course, that still wouldn't kill the SPK entirely, but instead more likely just set if off prematurely like in ACTA. I think the VPK would probably have a harder time evacuating the area than the Excalibur did. So I'd guess mutual destruction, at least if the SPK manages to surround the VPK.

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Well, feasibly they COULD become entangled in a brawl. In which case it would be tough to say which would win. Despite the VPKs extraordinary resiliance to the younger races' weapons, hundreds of nuclear missiles pummeling it from all sides would probably sting a lot. However, with the Vorlon's assumed advanced sensors, they could probably detect the SPKs centerpiece (assuming they don't already know about it) and shoot that gigantic beam through it. Of course, that still wouldn't kill the SPK entirely, but instead more likely just set if off prematurely like in ACTA. I think the VPK would probably have a harder time evacuating the area than the Excalibur did. So I'd guess mutual destruction, at least if the SPK manages to surround the VPK.

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the vpk could jsut let off afew blasts and do plenty of damamge to that thing even without hitting the middle - remember it wasso big that the younger races could consivbly destroy the whole think - i think the vorlon planet killer could defiantly have a god and blowing the whole thing into tiny bits - i inagine the beam from the vpk was alot wider than anormal beam so just aim vaguely at the middle and bang - also got to assume the vpk has huge ranger since i image even vorlons dont want to be in orbit ofa planet thats jsut blown up

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i didnt mean pit them against each other i meant which one do u think is more effective/harder to kill/more destructive

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The vpk is definitely harder to kill...
The spk was killed by 2 Victories, with some support from Minbari and EA vessels (they were mainly engaging the Drakh not spk, some league vessels also)

The only time a vpk was seen destroyed the combined forces of six firstone vessels were needed, needless to say that either one of those firstone vessels could easily wipeout 2 victories....

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The vpk is definitely harder to kill...
The spk was killed by 2 Victories, with some support from Minbari and EA vessels (they were mainly engaging the Drakh not spk, some league vessels also)

The only time a vpk was seen destroyed the combined forces of six firstone vessels were needed, needless to say that either one of those firstone vessels could easily wipeout 2 victories....

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ahaem and the VPK would kill the SPK from long range even before it got near....

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ahaem and the VPK would kill the SPK from long range even before it got near....

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The SPK was only just barely killed by two VCDs, and that by a maneuver that neither the Drakh nor the Shadows had anticipated. If the Drakh had been more prepared to counter the Victory's ramming, Earth would have been toast (unless of course Sheridan had decided to ram the centerpiece too, only to have the Apollo jump out right next to it and start shooting it). It looked pretty much like the VPK was dedicated completely to planet killing, and had not much defense except for its thick hide while engaging its beam. I'd guess that its power could be redistributed for anti-ship fighting, but it always seemed to be accompanied by a large fleet of Vorlon vessels to cover its arse. As we have seen, no ship can really claim invincibility even to a large enough group of younger race ships. If equivalently sized fleets went up against the unescorted PKers, I'm not sure how much resistance they would come up against. As far as the SPK, there are all those short range beam weapons, at least on the centerpiece, but I'm sure there are more. Into the Fire showed that individual missiles can be intentionally launched against ships inside, though it seemed the Drakh didn't think to do that. For the VPK, it would be a matter of having enough power to punch through it while avoiding its beam.

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