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We're back people! Talk may begin again!

Oh, and check the screen shots page. I've posted 7 new screen shots...not all of its going to be Release 2, but they are damn fun anyways.

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the TBP link in your sig is quite useful, Ice. I didn't even have to open up my bookmarks

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Why thank you

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*APPLAUSE*

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wow, amazing screenshots... damn the anti-aliasion on your vid card...

the drakh fighter looks good, though its textures seem to be based on the older drakh fighter mesh. I know Nadab Goksu's ( eon3d.com )mesh has better textures. Unless those are his, in which case the explosion prolly made them look bright yellow.

I also really like the drakh weapons effects.

Are you sure there IS a Drakh fighter aka smaller version of the raider? as far as I know there is only the raider, which is half the size of a white star and piloted by 1 person.

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Oh we can talk again? That good I havent said a thing in few days (just joke).

Yeah those screenshots were good! We want more or at least I want!

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Great and the pics are awesome

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Nice screenshots and I concur with Londo about the Drakh Raider size. Unless they are to be player flyable then is there any need to have a small fighter version?

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The Drakh textures I think are from Nadabs model, in any case, its IP's initial work and it might get a bit of tweaking. Overall, the quality is good.

Eternal One and I decided on the Drakh Raider/Fighter thing just recently.

The size of the Drakh Raider has changed more often than the size of the WhiteStar (which has changed from 100 meters to 400 meters over the course of 3 seasons). So we've decided to have two versions of the Drakh Raider.

Drakh Fighter - Same basic hull design, scaled down to 30 meters. In terms of game balance, this ship is suited for attacking other fighters and light capital ship raids. This ship is armed with a pulse cannon of sorts.

Drakh Raider - Closer to the proper size (about 100 meters or so). Armed with the blue beam that we've come to expect. Dangerous to capital ships in groups.

This solves a balance issue and a mission design issue. If we wanted 20 Drakh Raiders in the mission....we would have to manually beam-free all of them. Then we'd have to have two different beams for the same ship...one so that fighters could be hit and not pummeled, and another that could do damage against capital ships. A beam capable of destroying a capital ship would make a fighter disintegrate in one hit, which is no fun to anyone. The other thing is that a 100 meter long ship is an easy target for fighters and does not dogfight well, a 30 meter long ship is fine. The WhiteStar has a better array of weapons and will be easier to deal with than the Drakh ships.

This is the reasoning. Its not 100% canon, but then the show never decided on size anyways....

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Fair enough, very logical reasoning. Also, I guess you decided that the Drakh needed at least one more class of vessel for the sake of variety (all other considerations ignored).

How easy to destroy will the 100m Drakh Raider vessel be (for instance with a Starfury)?

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The whitestar is a real problem for me. If it is set as a bomber it manuvers well , but looks odd being so big, and as a capship it goes in one direction and takes a while to come around again. How did you guys solve this, and do you have the same problem with the drakh?

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The whitestar is a real problem for me. If it is set as a bomber it manuvers well , but looks odd being so big, and as a capship it goes in one direction and takes a while to come around again. How did you guys solve this, and do you have the same problem with the drakh?

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We are working on this one, right now we have a slight crashing problem our current beta model. Nothing serious, will be fixed in final model.

Probably we will create own AI specs for WS and similar ships.
Now, we do not know whether WS will be a bomber or cruiser.

If it is a cruiser, mission designers should not use direct attack commands (as they should not do on any ship, except on particular matters). Waypoints will be used instead, unfortunately this will mean that WS will not behave dynamically for events, like for enemy fighter attacks, unless scripted so by events.

Bomber would be the best choice, but it will behave oddly sometimes. Like when it begins moving, it spins around few times.

Don't worry, we will sort this out before official release.

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spin around? can you make bombers to go for waypoints if you can then make a waypoint a little away from the ship so it dosent spin but moves in a certain direction and after that it can do what it wants

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Spins as in FS2's AI tries to move onto course, overshoots, and then corrects. This is a problem with all AI classes (fighter, bomber, cruiser, etc). The WhiteStar will not work perfectly in TBP....there is nothing we can do about it....but we will make it work as nicely as possible.

The 100 meter long Drakh Raider will take a bit of punishment as will the WhiteStar. 30 meter Drakh Fighter will take a little more than a Nial....

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Love the nebula effects, and the Drakh ships aren't that bad either!

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If it is a cruiser, mission designers should not use direct attack commands (as they should not do on any ship, except on particular matters).

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*ding* (cartoon style light bulb appears over TheEXone's head)

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If it is a cruiser, mission designers should not use direct attack commands (as they should not do on any ship, except on particular matters). Waypoints will be used instead, unfortunately this will mean that WS will not behave dynamically for events, like for enemy fighter attacks, unless scripted so by events.

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this might sound very stupid as it will but how tha hell do you turn on the ship selection butons in TBP campaign?

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this might sound very stupid as it will but how tha hell do you turn on the ship selection butons in TBP campaign?

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