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what would happen do you think?

Victory and Excalibur have their huge ass guns but a battlecrab is much more maneuverable and has an extremly powerfull weapon at its disposal along with jump point disrupters and a huge ass fleet of fighters.

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what would happen do you think?

Victory and Excalibur have their huge ass guns but a battlecrab is much more maneuverable and has an extremly powerfull weapon at its disposal along with jump point disrupters and a huge ass fleet of fighters.

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As Shadow fan I say Shadow battlecrab...

If it is largest Battlecrab and it would attack side of Victory & Excalibur, it would whipe them of, before they even noticed it...

But in other hand when V & E fires their main beams and hit Battlecrab it would lose, but if it dodge their beams and take 'em out quickly...

Cant say, every battle is unique and anything can happen

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As Shadow fan I say Shadow battlecrab...

If it is largest Battlecrab and it would attack side of Victory & Excalibur, it would whipe them of, before they even noticed it...

But in other hand when V & E fires their main beams and hit Battlecrab it would lose, but if it dodge their beams and take 'em out quickly...

Cant say, every battle is unique and anything can happen

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Deciding thing here is whether or not there are Telepaths(and enough of them to disrupt the Battlecrab), I think if there were none, ship vs ship fight, it would be the Battlecrab that would win, and by a HUGE landslide.

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I'd say that it is not that simple. We have seen how Vorlon bioarmor proved to be very resistant to Shadow beams. And we know that Whitestar uses Vorlon tech (bioarmor), so WS should be pretty thought nut to crack. But we have seen that Drakh fighters can destroy a Whitestar fairly easy. Thereby Drakh beams must be powerful (ofcourse they are, they look so good).

Now you are all wondering why I am talking about Vorlons and Drakhs...
When Drakh fighters fired Excalibur in ACtA, they failed to make any visible damage (atleast I didn't see any). As it is able to reflect powerful Drakh beams the armor in the Victory & Excalibur must be somewhat resistant to Shadow beams too.
I am not saying that Battlecrab would lose. But it would not be just "BZZZ! BAM! and back home to eat cookies".
And let us not to forget the big beam turret at the top of the Victory/Excalibur as it poses a serious threat to the Battlecrab. (Althought Shadow slicer could propably 'neutralize' it quite easily.)
And the continious fire from Victorys/Excaliburs anti-fighter turrets would propably weaken the Crab quickly. There are lots of those turrets in the V/E afterall...

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I'd say that it is not that simple. We have seen how Vorlon bioarmor proved to be very resistant to Shadow beams. And we know that Whitestar uses Vorlon tech (bioarmor), so WS should be pretty thought nut to crack. But we have seen that Drakh fighters can destroy a Whitestar fairly easy. Thereby Drakh beams must be powerful (ofcourse they are, they look so good).

Now you are all wondering why I am talking about Vorlons and Drakhs...
When Drakh fighters fired Excalibur in ACtA, they failed to make any visible damage (atleast I didn't see any). As it is able to reflect powerful Drakh beams the armor in the Victory & Excalibur must be somewhat resistant to Shadow beams too.
I am not saying that Battlecrab would lose. But it would not be just "BZZZ! BAM! and back home to eat cookies".
And let us not to forget the big beam turret at the top of the Victory/Excalibur as it poses a serious threat to the Battlecrab. (Althought Shadow slicer could propably 'neutralize' it quite easily.)
And the continious fire from Victorys/Excaliburs anti-fighter turrets would propably weaken the Crab quickly. There are lots of those turrets in the V/E afterall...

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Against 2 victory class destroyer the battle crab has no hope,remember that the victory class can refract 80% of any weapon used against it.They also have many more weapons than just the main gun..

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I am not saying that Battlecrab would lose. But it would not be just "BZZZ! BAM! and back home to eat cookies

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Vorlon milk and cookies I hope...

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quote:

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I am not saying that Battlecrab would lose. But it would not be just "BZZZ! BAM! and back home to eat cookies

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Vorlon milk and cookies I hope...

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its a tough one to call only person who could say for sure is JMS.. i mean if a shadow ship hits a whitestar dead on its dead.. so i imagine the excaliber would be able to take a little more damage than a whitestar but i still dont think it would last against a battlecrab

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Originally posted by Sigma957
Against 2 victory class destroyer the battle crab has no hope,remember that the victory class can refract 80% of any weapon used against it.They also have many more weapons than just the main gun..

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It can reflect most of known weapons, but Shadow beam, Vorlon beam, Third-space Aliens firebolt and Firstones weapons are quite different thing...

Cookies and Milk? Hmm... It seems that Vorlons had became to Santa Claus or they kidnapped him with cookies and milk...

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Originally posted by Sigma957
Against 2 victory class destroyer the battle crab has no hope,remember that the victory class can refract 80% of any weapon used against it.They also have many more weapons than just the main gun..

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It can reflect most of known weapons, but Shadow beam, Vorlon beam, Third-space Aliens firebolt and Firstones weapons are quite different thing...

Cookies and Milk? Hmm... It seems that Vorlons had became to Santa Claus or they kidnapped him with cookies and milk...

No cristhmas present in next year

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WhiteStar has Vorlon armor. The Excalibur was taking out of space dock before they impleneted Vorlon/Minbari armor... At least this is what I recall from a discussion on this forum a few months back.

I still think that the Shadows would win, the ships are very manueverable, unless there are some nasty little Teeps to mess with my Dark Masters....

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WhiteStar has Vorlon armor. The Excalibur was taking out of space dock before they impleneted Vorlon/Minbari armor... At least this is what I recall from a discussion on this forum a few months back.

I still think that the Shadows would win, the ships are very manueverable, unless there are some nasty little Teeps to mess with my Dark Masters....

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quote:

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It can reflect most of known weapons, but Shadow beam, Vorlon beam, Third-space Aliens firebolt and Firstones weapons are quite different thing...

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