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Does any one get the same problem that i do?
My FRED crashes if i put more then 30 Capital ships
on the map, now i know that sounds like alot, but if your only
faceing a couple caps. at a time theres no slow down, so ive
seperated them significantly, Can any one open up there FRED
and place oh say 31 hyperions and see if they get the same problem.

I havent tryied placeing an insane amount of fighter to see if
theres the same problem.

And if the problem exists for everyone, anyone know how to correct it, or is it just too much for the FRED to handle,which doesnt make sense, i dont even have the ship 3-d models on.

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not enough RAM my friend

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It's all in the RAM.

I have 128MB and can have 32 capital ships or 100 fighters/capital ships in Fred2 at any one time. Spacing and timing is irrelevant, just the raw ship numbers.

If having so many capital ships is important, try making it into a "Red Alert" mission.

This is one reason why I'm getting 1GB of RAM very soon (only around £100)

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Originally posted by FSF Ashrak

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you like that thing don't you?

That's alright, so do I.

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A "red alert" mission? what do you mean by that?

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For the best explanation, look in the index of the Fred 2 help file.

For an example of its use, look at the events architecture of the fourth and fifth missions of the B5 demo missions.

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Ive not figured the problem out yet, The person who
suggested that it was a Ram problem was incorrect, i
have more ram than 128, i have upwards of 300 MB, and
ive Free'd up 92% of that with a free up program, thats
not the problem, i get a page fault, i think its very techinical
so ill take it to freespace 2 tech support.

Thanks for your help anyways guys.
Hey does anyone know if there is a place where i can
download models, like say narn or centari, i know theres no release yet, but maybe i can come up with some missions in FRED.

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so ill take it to freespace 2 tech support

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I know,sorry, what i ment by tech support was Forums, LoL
I wouldnt ever wait on a telephone 4 hours to get Some help.

Heres a link: http://vbb.volition-inc.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi
for anyone with similar questions.

But all in all it turns out that it FRED just cant handle too many,
Unless you open in in MSword and edit it in there, in which you would need to be a friggin genius to do so.

Only solution would be to warp in new ones when older ones die out.

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Um, thirty capital ships != good for FRED.

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thirty is the limit for me and I've got 320mb, anyway thrity caps is good enough for any mission....

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I managed to put 24 Novas and player fighter before FRED2 crashed, I had 430 MB of free RAM (total: 640 MB)

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quite late but don´t mind

What the hell do you want with 30 MBS´s??

Its a nice idea, but most PC wont survive this mission!


My little sweet p3 750 already sucks with the unofficial mission withe the new ships.
I think a Geforce 2 360 Ram should be enough, isn´t it.

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Originally posted by Triggy
This is one reason why I'm getting 1GB of RAM very soon (only around £100)

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It's a Christmas overhaul:

Upgrade:
PIII 600MHz - P4 1.7GHz
128MB RAM - 1GB DDRRAM
Motherboard (of course)
W98 - WXP
Possibly TNT2 32MB - GeForce 3 64MB

Should be able to do this for around £300-£400 (excluding the video card) through contacts in the computer business. It all depends on how much I spend generally for Christmas presents for other people.

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9x can't support more than 512, period. And that's an absolute fixed maximum.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q253/9/12.ASP

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It's not only the RAM, it's also processor power. I have 256 RAM and P500mhz, and I can put about 25-30 capships in a mission before the illegal error.

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Now, the question is, have Microsoft fixed this issue in XP?

What is the maximum amount of RAM that XP can support?

BTW, I don't think that system specs beyond a certain level actually have any effect on Fred2.

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XP supports up to 4 GB RAM.
Server versions even more.

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Cheers

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