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Ace
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Fight of the Century!

Yes, you too can witness:
The Kebler Drow Monk v.s. Wildwolf's Loki!!!!



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There would be NO contest. The Loki is so fragile, the Keebler Drow Monk would just have to FART on it to destroy it!

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Slanker
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Undoubtedly the Loki will fart on that f00, cuz the Loki is the second best fighter in the whole wide universe!

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R128 BlueFlames
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Ha! Neither wins! I come in in my Seth and obliterate WildWolf, then call in a Sobek to pulverize the Drow biatch and everything within 20 kilometers of him! Mwahahaha!!

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...and the Kebler Drow Monk uses it's Grab Missiles feat to grab your inbound warheads, and throws them back at your Seth prior to their detonation!

...he then uses Quivering Palm of Japanesse-Ninja Power with Judo Chop(tm) action to smash your ship to pieces!

Behold, the power of the 9th level Kebler Drow Monk!

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Using my super secret fighter from the future I beat everyone

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Snipes
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quote:
Originally posted by Slanker:
Undoubtedly the Loki will fart on that f00, cuz the Loki is the second best fighter in the whole wide universe!


What's with you guys and likeing crappy fighters?!

The only one with some sense is that r128 guy with the seth!

List of ships that sucked:

GTF Apollo
GTF Loki
GVF Serapis
GVF Horus
GTB Zeus
GVB Osiris


Don't like any of these or else (nothing)!

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DarkHorse
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Serapis+Horus 0wn0r J00, inferior Terran. =P

Not to mention, the Zeus is basically the only bomber that can act as both a fighter and bomber effectively. So ha.

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The Apollo was the best rounded vessel in FS1, it's ability to mount dual Prometheus cannons and Dual Racks of Hornets or Interceptors allowed for the perfect mix of firepower, speed, and manuverability.

Think you're hot? I'll take on you and your entire squadron in an Apollo on impossible mode in an FS1 game, and I will win. (yes, I've taken on several of V's hotshots at once during the first FS2 frenzy, and they're good, and the squad's I've done the same flying with are some of the top squads on PXO)


The Horus has a high default main engine speed, so you can spare some more power into weapons with the same speed and manuverability ratio as a Perseus.

The Serapis, though slow and fragile, is extremely manuverable, especially with the Y axis, that and it's slender profile allow for a good pilot to dodge primary weapon fire.

The Loki is *the* ship for dodging secondary weapons and for being a decoy, it's small, loaded with tons of countermeasures, and it's manuverability allows for you to easily dodge target lock and to avoid inbound warheads.

A little undocumented feature with the Loki, which seems to be just based on raw statistics, but no solid proof in tables or my probing into the game code, is that it appears that secondary weapons loose track of the missile in their "memory" sooner.

Once again, there's nothing to prove it but speculation and some timing tests.

So Snipes, please thoroughly study your craft in field tests, don't rely on raw schematics...

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quote:
Originally posted by Snipes:
List of ships that sucked:
GTF Apollo
GTF Loki
GVF Serapis
GVF Horus
GTB Zeus
GVB Osiris



I agree with you at 50%. The terran ships are all super-well designed, but the vasudans are just crappy.

Number 1 fighter is the Apollo, number 2 the Loki. Number one bomber is the Zeus, number 2 the Medusa. What is your problem?

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R128 BlueFlames
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quote:
Originally posted by Ace:
...and the Kebler Drow Monk uses it's Grab Missiles feat to grab your inbound warheads, and throws them back at your Seth prior to their detonation!

Behold, the power of the 9th level Kebler Drow Monk!




Sucka. I use Kaysers.

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The best FS2 fighter is, by far, the Serapis; its manuverability is unmatched. Notthing, not even the Pegasus or Ptah is quite as easy to turn in, and it can pack decent weapons too (the Mekhu owns you with its SUPAR-fast firing rate). For bombing in FS2, nothing beats the Sekhmet. It packs mad power into a (relatively) small and movable package. No big clumsy Boanarges for me, thanks.

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Snipes
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I'm Sorry, but in my playing, I have found the following to best suit my needs for the following reasons:

GTF Hercules - Beats the Mark II in fire power. The MKII Was an uneeded redesign.

GTB Athena - I use it as a heavy assault fighter.

GVF Tuaret - Very Good, Very Strong, Almost as good as the Seth.

GVF Seth - STRONG! FAST! POWERFUL!

GVB Sekhmet - The only bomber to use whether online or not...(R.I.)

But I'm a heavy assault/bomber, in my squad too...

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R128 BlueFlames
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quote:
Originally posted by Snipes:


GVF Seth - STRONG! FAST! POWERFUL!



There's a man with a good taste in ships. You are right of course. The fighter packs the punch of a heavy assault fighter, has the afterburner of an interceptor, and the shields are unmatched in its class.

I think I'll disagree on the Herc II though. Herc IIs can take a lot more punishment than a Herc I, and while there are fewer weapons mounts, they are placed closer together, thereby increasing the probability of hitting with all four shots. I think (but wouldn't sware to) that the afterburner lasts a lot longer and the missile capacity is slightly larger too.

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quote:
Originally posted by R128 BlueFlames:
There's a man with a good taste in ships. You are right of course. The fighter packs the punch of a heavy assault fighter, has the afterburner of an interceptor, and the shields are unmatched in its class.

I think I'll disagree on the Herc II though. Herc IIs can take a lot more punishment than a Herc I, and while there are fewer weapons mounts, they are placed closer together, thereby increasing the probability of hitting with all four shots. I think (but wouldn't sware to) that the afterburner lasts a lot longer and the missile capacity is slightly larger too.



The missile capacity is 50% bigger on the Mk 2, and the afterburners are more efficient and bigger.

Not to mention being faster, more maneuverable, tougher.....

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The Herc 2 is my prefered and favorite ship. Bigger secondary loadout, smaller size, faster speed and more manuverability. The Herc 2 was definately an upgrade from the Herc. Some people prefer the 6 guns but I find them a nicety that is quite nicely compensated in larger secondary loadout.

Vasudan ships should not be discounted.

The Bakha and Sekhmet are excellent bombers and not at all like their Terran counterparts. The Tauret is an awesome fighter and the Seth is still useful despite being in service for 40 years or so. The Serapis is an awesome point defense and scout ship and the Horus is still one of the fastest ships around.

Most missions don't emphasize speed and evasion however so these aspects get neglected.

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Wait, I just thought of something...don't Drow have Ultravision? Meaning, they can see in total darkness, but light blinds them. So wouldn't the Elf be unable to see the Loki? Unless they were underground, in which case the Loki's pilot would probably get nervous jitters and crash.

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R128 BlueFlames
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I wouldn't get the jitters. This Seth pilot plays Descent 3.

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Why don't you go the full nine yards/meters and convert all the fighters and weapons in?

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Hey BlueFlames, could you tell us why you like the Seth? It's extremely old, and it's outmatched in every category by the Tauret or Herc2. It was good in FS1, I'll give it that much.

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