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Hiho,

this goes to the Dev team, the sentinel sucks badly as it is atm. The two gun mounts are to far away from the center to effectively hit nearly all small fighters with both gun mounts. You can usually hit him with one ,but the other shot goes mostly astray.

This is a significant disadvantage of the sentinel and it would be really good if you could move the gun mounts a little bit closer to the center.

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Blame the Centauri. They're the ones who designed it. Or blame JMS.

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It would be cool to be able to adjust the convergence of the guns in our fighters, like in WW2 flight sims. Though that would probably require some serious source code hacking.

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I agree phobos, i do not blame em. I do ask the team to change it though, since playability should always come before authenticity in a game.

Either they move the gunmounts closer to the center, or they tilt the guns so the shots race towards each other.

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I agree phobos, i do not blame em. I do ask the team to change it though

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dude depends on what is your target. so if you fire at a transport you will hit it ,but if you fire at a Zephir..yo are in trouble..You barrely hit it in a Fury..so why change a model since you are a bad shooter

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Indeed, besides it is Sentri. Not Sentry or Sentinel.

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The two gun mounts are to far away from the center to effectively hit nearly all small fighters with both gun mounts.

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That's why the rotating function exists... (keys 7 and 9)

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Indeed, besides it is Sentri. Not Sentry or Sentinel.

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The downside of having the Starfury's guns close together is that if one misses then the other is likely to miss as well. The Sentri has a wider field of effect and therefore can use it's improved manoeuvrability to get into a general firing position before taking a snap shot(s) before turning away. The Starfury needs to line up its target for a short while before taking its shots to make sure of the hits. This means that if the Starfury gets a good tow on the enemy then more damage is inflicted but against a good dogfighter then the Starfury is less reliable.

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Ok. You've asked. Consider this as the team officially saying no.

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That is your choice, i think its a bad one, but your choice nevertheless.

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You barrely hit it in a Fury..so why change a model since you are a bad shooter

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Try the Sentri in the mission i just made. It is practically impossible to hit the frazi with the Sentri. If you are to close , both shots will either miss, or go straight through it without making damage.
If you are a little farther away you have to hope that the frazi not only speeds away from you (wich it usually does) , rather break and expose his length. Even if you shoot at the length, the guns barely hit front and rear of the frazi and some shot mostly go astray.

As for my bad skill, i've played FPS for several years, been in a pretty good clan and all the stuff. I'd say my skill blows out yours easily

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Indeed, besides it is Sentri. Not Sentry or Sentinel.

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Point taken. Dunno what rode me there.

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That's why the rotating function exists... (keys 7 and 9)

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I know that i can "rotate" , yet as i said above, the distance is that great that in dogfight you can only hit a frazi with both guns if it exposes its length and you aim extremely well



That all said i respect the teams decision, although it came only from andrews, but i find it fundamentally flawed.

A game should be optimized for fun, not for the sake of authenticity. The current setting on the sentri is no fun imho.

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TBP is damn hard to play anyway.. First I had big problems hitting Nials with the StarFury..Target was small,fast and very maneuvrable...Trust me try the Zephir as target ..possible problem is that u are used to Shooters..well this is not quite a shooter.. Then again Practice.
As far as I am concerned Sentri is very well modeled and done and accurate.(IP knows that I hardly say accurate when come to TBP)

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That all said i respect the teams decision, although it came only from andrews, but i find it fundamentally flawed.

A game should be optimized for fun, not for the sake of authenticity. The current setting on the sentri is no fun imho.

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if you have seen the sentri it is also a difficult target to hit. it has a small thin profile and is extremely manuverable. Use that to your advantage against the frazi. you can out fly it with out a probem.

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In my opinion the Sentri is very good. It's just the style of the Centauri fast, agile and deadly guns. I would say on an scale 1 to 10 it would got a 9. But now my question to the Dev's. Would it be possible to make the Nial carry 3 Main guns. So that the firing effect from the Show is better to see. If not, no problem. But it would be fine.

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Kosh_Naranek: Nial is as good as it can be without source code modifications. Use tbp_open if you want it to have real beams which also cycles as in the show.

Much later, tbp_open will be supported officially. By then it is most likely also required.

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OK. Thanks Mr. Fury

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the sentri is also a fast powerful and manueverable craft. they could be easily used as a multi role craft. a wing of sentris could easily take out a q'guan.

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You've got to understand that it takes skill to fly the sentri and aim aswell.Once you know where to aim,you can take them out like flies.

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It's kinda like flying a Bwing or Xwing after you've gotten used to the cannons on the Awing.
Just aim slightly to the side of the crosshair.

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