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Deathstorm
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Geo-Almost?

I know geo-mod is going to be almost impossible to integrate into FS2 so I had a thought.

What If you were to make up the external sections of a ship from destroyable subsystems (i.e. that they vanish like destroyed turrets)? Simply use the molten metal texture on the interior sections of the ship and you have an almost geo-mod ship.

Two problems I can forsee:

1 - I am not a modeller and as such have no idea if what I am saying is possible.

2 - If it is possible, the models would probably require ridiulously high nubers of polygons.

But I said it, so it's time to crush this idea.

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Geo-Almost?

I know geo-mod is going to be almost impossible to integrate into FS2 so I had a thought.

What If you were to make up the external sections of a ship from destroyable subsystems (i.e. that they vanish like destroyed turrets)? Simply use the molten metal texture on the interior sections of the ship and you have an almost geo-mod ship.

Two problems I can forsee:

1 - I am not a modeller and as such have no idea if what I am saying is possible.

2 - If it is possible, the models would probably require ridiulously high nubers of polygons.

But I said it, so it's time to crush this idea.

Do your worst.

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Lose yourself in the game, the moment

I don't think the idea is impossible. As a matter of fact, I believe TBP tried to do something similar with modified geometry on their GOD Satellite, but that it crashed the game due to some instability.

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I don't think the idea is impossible. As a matter of fact, I believe TBP tried to do something similar with modified geometry on their GOD Satellite, but that it crashed the game due to some instability.

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Some models in FS 2 have someting like that, the GTI Ganymade and that NTF Asteroid Base for example.

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Now that WOULD be interesting; although the NTF Boadicea has the highest polycount in the game, if we could have destroyable armor that would be excellent.

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Now that WOULD be interesting; although the NTF Boadicea has the highest polycount in the game, if we could have destroyable armor that would be excellent.

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I think the SCP people are working on having some "destroyable" sections of each vessel.

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I think the SCP people are working on having some "destroyable" sections of each vessel.

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What I thought of in particular are engines.

For a Hecate, you could blow an entire engine array off one of the wings if that subsystem is destroyed, or with an Orion, you could have the ship run through like in the FS2 opening movie.

However, that would negate the possibility or repairing those systems.

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What I thought of in particular are engines.

For a Hecate, you could blow an entire engine array off one of the wings if that subsystem is destroyed, or with an Orion, you could have the ship run through like in the FS2 opening movie.

However, that would negate the possibility or repairing those systems.

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Damageable subsections are probably alright (like the vertical 'wings' on an Hecate) as you could give them subsystem names.

But if you were to do a hole through an Orion for instance, then that section would have to have a name for the subsystems list. I for one would find it a bit silly if to find say the engine subsystem on an Orion, I had to cycle through a load of non-sensical subsystems.

There, I bet that make no sense what-so-ever.

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Damageable subsections are probably alright (like the vertical 'wings' on an Hecate) as you could give them subsystem names.

But if you were to do a hole through an Orion for instance, then that section would have to have a name for the subsystems list. I for one would find it a bit silly if to find say the engine subsystem on an Orion, I had to cycle through a load of non-sensical subsystems.

There, I bet that make no sense what-so-ever.

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There, I bet that make no sense what-so-ever.


I wouldn't say that. The list of subsys names was one thing that concerned me, but I was under the impression that you could have 'hidden' subsystems.

Was I imagining it?

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There, I bet that make no sense what-so-ever.


I wouldn't say that. The list of subsys names was one thing that concerned me, but I was under the impression that you could have 'hidden' subsystems.

Was I imagining it?

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I dont know about the whole subsections thing, but I do know that Geo-Mod is just not capable of doing a deep space game. There are too many physics and rendering issues...RF and RF2 are the prime examples...you would have to add way too many physics effects you would have to add...although with a game-developer-level team you could probably do it...with the FS2 team from volition, you could do it...I think if THQ had any brains they would buy the FS name and rights from Interplay and have Volition make FS3 with GEO-Mod...

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