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Theory..

Alright, if you can mod fighters, bombers, ETC.. shouldn't you be able to mod large ships, like destroyers and cruisers. I'm mean mod them to be playable. Ofcourse there would be alot of problems with the weapons and the huds.. but technically it sounds possible.

Like you can make a fighter from scratch; if you just increased it's size would it still be available for play? Or would it cause alot of problems with Freespace 2?

Just wondering, don't like jump at me for being stupid please.

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Dem

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Theory..

Alright, if you can mod fighters, bombers, ETC.. shouldn't you be able to mod large ships, like destroyers and cruisers. I'm mean mod them to be playable. Ofcourse there would be alot of problems with the weapons and the huds.. but technically it sounds possible.

Like you can make a fighter from scratch; if you just increased it's size would it still be available for play? Or would it cause alot of problems with Freespace 2?

Just wondering, don't like jump at me for being stupid please.

Thanks,

Dem

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Well, I suppose you could have a massive fighter with all the guns pointing forward...
But why?

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Well, I suppose you could have a massive fighter with all the guns pointing forward...
But why?

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BWO has a 100 meter long bomber that is player flyable

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All you have to do is make the ship a bomber. Then all its turrets will attack your target and your nearest attacker. But you can't launch fighters

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All you have to do is make the ship a bomber. Then all its turrets will attack your target and your nearest attacker. But you can't launch fighters

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Oh!! OK thanks guys, I appreciate it. I'm going to get that 100m bomber too. Does anyone know of any other large playable ship downloads they wouldn't mind typing the link out?

Thanks alot ,

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Oh!! OK thanks guys, I appreciate it. I'm going to get that 100m bomber too. Does anyone know of any other large playable ship downloads they wouldn't mind typing the link out?

Thanks alot ,

Dem

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Just make a huge-ass bomber with a few dozen turrets

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Ok, well I tried downloading a few new ships, they all worked, but they aren't that big, same size as all the other ones. So can I mess around the ships.tbl file and make it so i can fly a destroyer?? Please help me out here :P

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Ok, well I tried downloading a few new ships, they all worked, but they aren't that big, same size as all the other ones. So can I mess around the ships.tbl file and make it so i can fly a destroyer?? Please help me out here :P

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Well, yes and no -

Giving ships the bomber tag would work, but capships have too many subsystems (turrets and radar dishes) for the hud to handle. If you fly them from this view, it can lock up the game.

Also, changing the tag changes the behaviou of a ship as well - a destroyer is not just a scaled up bomber - they use entirely different tactics and stylesa, so your AI would be messed up...

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Well, yes and no -

Giving ships the bomber tag would work, but capships have too many subsystems (turrets and radar dishes) for the hud to handle. If you fly them from this view, it can lock up the game.

Also, changing the tag changes the behaviou of a ship as well - a destroyer is not just a scaled up bomber - they use entirely different tactics and stylesa, so your AI would be messed up...

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What if you change the AI, for example, switched it with the Bomber. Would that correct the behaviour?

So, appearntly the best idea yet is to just create a completely new bomb from scratch. Ofcourse.. today's the first time I even thought about Freespace 2 Mods, so I have no idea how to create new model. I immagine there is alot of terms and definitions I'd need to know.

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What if you change the AI, for example, switched it with the Bomber. Would that correct the behaviour?

So, appearntly the best idea yet is to just create a completely new bomb from scratch. Ofcourse.. today's the first time I even thought about Freespace 2 Mods, so I have no idea how to create new model. I immagine there is alot of terms and definitions I'd need to know.

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Or you could just remove the radar dish and the no essential sub systems. Then the hud shouldn't have much trouble.

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Or you could just remove the radar dish and the no essential sub systems. Then the hud shouldn't have much trouble.

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Its not the nonessentials that are gonna give you the trouble pal, its the 3 dozen turrets the average destroyer packs thats gonna give ye hell. Easiest solution is extract the destroyer you want to fly using VPview, open it in Modelview, delete all the turrets (not the actual subobjects - which you cant - just the entries), and add hardpoints where you want your guns to fire from. FS2 doesnt support (to the best of my knowledge) more than 2 primary gunbanks for a player and 3 secondary missilebanks; keep that in mind or you'll have a crash there as well. After that, make sure you rename the pof file and make a table entry for it in ships.tbl.

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Its not the nonessentials that are gonna give you the trouble pal, its the 3 dozen turrets the average destroyer packs thats gonna give ye hell. Easiest solution is extract the destroyer you want to fly using VPview, open it in Modelview, delete all the turrets (not the actual subobjects - which you cant - just the entries), and add hardpoints where you want your guns to fire from. FS2 doesnt support (to the best of my knowledge) more than 2 primary gunbanks for a player and 3 secondary missilebanks; keep that in mind or you'll have a crash there as well. After that, make sure you rename the pof file and make a table entry for it in ships.tbl.

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