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shim
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New AMD chip

how many of you guys/gals have heard of the new chip AMD will be commin out?

btw tis called Opteron..

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FYI: Opteron is the name of the Server chip. I can't remember the name of the desktop chip off-hand though...

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but still it is AMD's new chip in the making..
hmmm, 64 bit processor..

could that other one be a uPGA thoroughbread processor? if so thats for NOTEBOOKS only..

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AMD's Opteron is a renamed Sledgehammer. The desktop line of that chip is called Clawhammer.

It's not the next thing in the pipeline for AMD, either.
First, they're going to try and boost the current AthlonXP up to a 333MHz FSB, and then the Barton chip is next out. After that, if I remember this right, comes Clawhammer/Sledgehammer (Well, Opteron. Whatever )

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i wonder what Intel's reply to this would be..

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pentium 5
4.333 Ghz
500 Mhz fsb

just a guess

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What ever happened to intel's "Itanium" line?

the last I had heard, was an article in an issue of boot PC (now maximum pc), and they had a vote on how to pronounce it.

"Stee-ooo-pid" won, i think.

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Itanium (I-tanium is how I pronounce it) still exists. Itanium II is coming out soon, I think. I could ask an Intel whore I know (he like worships them, but he knows EVERYTHING about Intel - very useful for info, not useful to argue with him ) if you want.

It's a pure server CPU, since it runs pure 64-bit (everything you use nowadays is 32-bit for the moment) so no consumer applications are out for it. It's obscenely expensive (couple thousand dollars or something) but also ungodly powerful for what it's designed to do.
It's something you never hear about though since it's rare server material ... most people don't need or have software for it.

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No. Intel's at 2.54 now, IIRC, they are not going to double their clockspeed in a snap. IIRC they're hoping for 3.0GHz by January 1, 2003. Oh and the new Northwood-B core Pentium 4s already have a 533MHz FSB (4x133) so more than likely we'll see Intel sticking with 533 and eventually their next migration will probably be a 666MHz FSB...but I can't guarantee that, obviously (seriously, although you can make all the Satan jokes you want, migrating from 4x133 to 4x166 is the most likely move )

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IIRC?

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quote:
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It's a pure server CPU, since it runs pure 64-bit (everything you use nowadays is 32-bit for the moment) so no consumer applications are out for it. It's obscenely expensive (couple thousand dollars or something) but also ungodly powerful for what it's designed to do.
It's something you never hear about though since it's rare server material ... most people don't need or have software for it.



Intel couldn't market is as a desktop CPU even if they wanted too... You see, Itaniums run at something 733-800Mhz and Intel have been marketing their chips from the angle of "More Mhz = More Performance." How are they going to convince people that a 733Mhz 64-bit CPU can outpace a 2000Mhz 32-bit one?

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thats true, they can't show they lied to the public, about MHZ > power.

My favorite part of the MS technet briefing I went to, is when they showed that an intel P4 1.5ghz cpu outperformed an intel P3 800mhz cpu.

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Intel will do what they like to do - slap on a hideously long pipeline (hmm.... howsabout 35 stages this time lads? Brilliant), then spend billions of dollars on some hideously complex control logic to make it semi efficeint.......

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Intenl and MicroSoft are best friends... Just look at them recommending each other's products.

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