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A basic out-line of Destiny's Destruction


The storyline

After Capella was destroyed by the second Shivan incursion into GTVA space, there was a lot cleaning up to do. Half the fleet was either destroyed or out of action, and still some Shivan warships remained in GTVA space.

The GTD Orion, from the Great War era has been assigned to help eliminate some of the estimated 30 or so Shivan capital ships still within GTVA space. Captain Jonas has given you command of Alpha Wing, an elite fighting force, to help them.

The Orion travels to mainly the systems surrounding Capella, and their neighbours. After Regulus is cut off from Deneb, their only hope is to go through Capella to reach Sirius, a dangerous time. They encounter the NTF Icini within the newly created Calella Nebula, and take Bosche prisoner. He gives them the secrets to ETAK, his communications program he had been working on to contact the Shivans.

The GTD Acquitaine is sent in, with the newly mastered ETAK project, along with Alpha wing, and they start fighting a Shivan force. However, once ETAK is up and running and tuned to Shivan frequencies, we begin to communicate with them. The Shivans sent the SD Cerberus to contact the Acquitaine, and they begin negociations. We learn that the Shivans are not particularly hostile to the Terrans, but to the Vasudans, whom the Ancients had contact with millenia ago. As allys of the Vasudans, the Terrans are seen as an enemy. The Shivans explain why they hate the Ancients...

Alpha wing is sent on the mission, and the Shivans show the Acquitaine a Knosses portal within the confines of Capella. We enter it, as they explain it leads to Shivan space.... 8000 years ago.

We see the first battle with the Shivans and the ancients - The Ancients are destroying the Shivans, as they expand across the galaxy. There is nothing they can do to stop the Ancients and their seemingly advanced weaponary. The Acquitaine gives the Shivans of the past, some shielding technology, which can repel the Ancients weapons. Since the Ancients had not experienced this technology before, they could not adapt to it quick enough. The Shivans return in force and drive the Ancients away. The Acquitaine and the Cerberus return to GTVA space, and a new era of peace develops between the Shivans and the Terrans, but the Shivans will not trust the Vasudans.

The HOL, a Vasudan sect, similar to the NTF of the Terrans, build up strength and begin attacking the Shivans, against the orders of the GV council. Tensions build up as the Shivans and Vasudans have minor skirmishes across GTVA space. The Terrans, afraid of destruction, do not help the Vasudans, and this degenerates the GTVA treaties.

Eventually the Vasudans break off their alliance with the Terrans, and the Shivans use this to decalre war on the Vasudans. The terrans are given an ultimatum - help the Shivans or help the Vasudans. The Terrans realise that the Shivans are more advanced, and the T/V alliance has degenerated beyond repair. They help the Shivans. The Vasudans are close to defeat when the Ancients appear. The Vasudans keep a monolithe, given to them by the Ancients, and have activated it.

The Shivans and the Terrans must face the Vasudans and the Ancients. After a lengthly fight, the Vasudans tell the Ancients where Earth is located. Being masters of subspace, the Ancients rebuild a link to Earth, in an attempt to destroy it.

The Shivans and the Terrans enter deep into Vasudan space to follow the armada, which they battle in subspace, and on entry to the Terran system.

As the Shivans and Terrans begin to lose the battle, some old Terran ships show up, from Earth, swining the battle in the favour of the G/S alliance. The Ancients send a ship through the portal to Earth, that can destroy the planet. The Shivans and Terrans must destroy it, before it destroys Earth...


Some points you may wish to consider

You could ask why the Shivans didn't travel through time to give themselves the technology of shields (to become the force that "wouldn't die"). The answer is complex, and also simple: It would create a paradox. The shivans would never have developed the shields to go back in time to give themselves the tech that lead to them developing it.

I know the humans got theirs from the Shivans, but hey, paradoxes are fun. And besdies, Terminator, Terminator 2 and many time travel stories are impossible. So that's all.


Some suggestions?

I would really appreciate someone replying to thise with some suggestions for extra bits and bobs etc. Since I'm designing FSDD for you lot (effectively) it would be nice to see what you think of it. Personally (and not to sound big headed) I like the way the Shivans turn out not to be the bad guys, but were driven to Xenophobia because they were attacked to begin with. To quote STDS9: "The hunted become the hunters".

I was a bit iffy at making the Vassudans the enemy, but then they were Earth's enemy to start with... It also leaves it open to a sequal, since we do not see what happens with the Ancients and the Shivans. Please bare in mind this is a first draught plot line, and I am open to changes and suggestions, problems and solutions etc

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well id really like to revise the radio chatter saw the first screeny and i didnt like the text that much can i revise it please would be a little more normal

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well id really like to revise the radio chatter saw the first screeny and i didnt like the text that much can i revise it please would be a little more normal

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I don't like the plot that much really. It undoes the whole "ultimate enemy" thing. There are also some very stupid parts of the story which seem to be in there just for the sake of it.
Wasn't Capella cut off? Weren't all the Shivans in or beyond Capella when it was sealed? Wasn't the Iceni destroyed? Don't the GTVA already have the specs for ETAK? Weren't the Shivans always impervious to Ancient weapons? Can't the SHivans just send in a million ships and swiftly end the war?

Stuff like that.
I don't have a problem with the Ancients returning.

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Wasn't Capella cut off?

no. Gamma draconis was. Capella is still linked to places here and there.



Weren't all the Shivans in or beyond Capella when it was sealed?

your point? some of them could have jumped to the end of the system, and missed the shockwave.



Wasn't the Iceni destroyed?

no it went MIA.



Don't the GTVA already have the specs for ETAK?

yes but they cant get it to work in my version.



Weren't the Shivans always impervious to Ancient weapons?

as defined in a 1 off line from freepspace 1, written by their arch enemy trying to make them look really really evil.



Can't the SHivans just send in a million ships and swiftly end the war?

no because the Shivans are god-knows where, and are cut off from GTVA space since Capella went nova and gamma draconis was cut off.


Stuff like that.

which is all easily explained.

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Wasn't Capella cut off?
Yes, the Nereid and Bastion destroyed the subspace nodes to Capella, the final cutscene also reaffirms that this occured despite the destruction of Capella.



Wasn't the Iceni destroyed?

no it went MIA.

Wrong, Bosch set the Iceni to self-destruct in the mission Return to Babel, though the survivors and the ETAK device specifications were retrieved, the Iceni was destroyed. Bosch "Gibson, Sarno, and a dozen others" are of an unknown status after they were taken by the Shivans in an Azrael transport.

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Wasn't Capella cut off?
Yes, the Nereid and Bastion destroyed the subspace nodes to Capella, the final cutscene also reaffirms that this occured despite the destruction of Capella.



Wasn't the Iceni destroyed?

no it went MIA.

Wrong, Bosch set the Iceni to self-destruct in the mission Return to Babel, though the survivors and the ETAK device specifications were retrieved, the Iceni was destroyed. Bosch "Gibson, Sarno, and a dozen others" are of an unknown status after they were taken by the Shivans in an Azrael transport.

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Firstly: the destruction of the node - we never actually know what happened - afterall, they tried to cut of Gamma Draconis, and the Shivans could still go through.

hmm, I think I'll need to have a bit of a rethink on that part. I could say there was a previously undiscovered one - say the Shivans are coming out of Capella somehow, and when people go to investigate, they find an uncharted jump node that has a Knosses on the other side (The Capella side) keeping it upen.

The second bit is relatively easy to fix - they will not find the Icini, but a broken down Azrael =)

Actually, what I really need is a map of the jump nodes - what points to what etc. Ive used some of the names that I could remember, but I know that they werent linked in FS2 as they are in my game.

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Bosch "Gibson, Sarno, and a dozen others" are of an unknown status after they were taken by the Shivans in an Azrael transport.

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Read: Probably BBQ'ed

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Firstly: the destruction of the node - we never actually know what happened - afterall, they tried to cut of Gamma Draconis, and the Shivans could still go through.

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Unfortunately the Knossos had at least 8000 years to stablise the jump node.

Actually the device was powered up by the NTC Trinity. Between the time of it's activation and destruction it had stabilized the node long enough for it to be used without the Knossos itself being active.

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Unfortunately the Knossos had at least 8000 years to stablise the jump node.

Actually the device was powered up by the NTC Trinity. Between the time of it's activation and destruction it had stabilized the node long enough for it to be used without the Knossos itself being active.

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You need a serious rethink there.

1) Capella went nova. Capella is now a nebula with a temperature of severalk thousend degrees.

2) The basition and the Nereid sealed the Epsilon Pegasi and Vega Nodes. The nodes are every bit as sealed as the one to sol.

3) The GTVA never actually attempted to close the gamma draconis - shivan nebula jump node itself. What they tried to do was destroy the knossos portal hoping that doing that would seal the node. Unfortunately the Knossos had at least 8000 years to stablise the jump node.
Destroying the knossos used up the GTVA's supply of Meson bombs preventing them from detonating a fourth bomb inside the open jump node and therefore sealing it.

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here's a mad question: if they sealed of Caleppa, where the hell did I jumpt o at the end of the mission to escape the shockwave?

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What makes you think they sealed the Capella - Vega node from the Capella end?

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Play the last mission again. Your mission was to get all the convoys out of capella before the nereid came through and blocked the node.

The supernova forces you to leave the system earlier than expected but I see no good reason why command wouldn`t still go ahead with sealing the node.

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I disagree with you there. If it was that easy to stabilise the node the ancients probably wouldn`t have left the knossos there. They would have stabilised the node with it then they would have packed it away and taken it somewhere else.

More likely is that even though no ships could pass through it while it was inactive the 8000 years it spent in standby mode stabilised the node.

Stabilising the node was most likely a by product of the enormously long time the knossos spent on that particular node. If you say that it stablised the node in the few weeks or months that the FS2 campaign takes then the purpose of the knossos is different. It's purpose wasn`t to stabilise unstable nodes but to fix them so that you can then take the knossos elsewhere.
If that is the case what it the 2nd knossos doing in the nebula and the 3rd doing in shivan space? I don`t believe a race with as good subspace tech as the shivans wouldn`t have figured out what the knossos portals were really for.

It was stated that the device was powered up by the Trinity.

Why have the Shivans ignored the Knossos devices? Good question, it's about up there with what happened to Bosch.

If you have a problem with that take it up with the writers at Volition

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That's why I said it was in standby mode. It wasn`t completely off.

When your TV just shows the red LED you still say that you`re turning it on when you make it show your favourite shows.

Same thing happening here. The knossos wasn`t completely turned off. It was just waiting for a signal from the galactic remote control. Until Bosch figured it out and had the trinity activate it no one (on either side) could use the knossos but it was still affecting the jump node and stabilising it.

There's no mystery there. No need to write to [V] as they explained it all. The shivans have left the other knossos portals in place because they haven`t finished stablising their nodes yet.

There are enough mysteries in FS2 without us creating any others!

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so you're saying that you cant go TO capella, but you can come out of it?

so shivans cans till come through?


or if it's the other way round and we cant get to capells, then couldnt SOL come through to GTVA space even if we cant go back?

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I dont think the knossos takes time to stabilize a node, just acts as a sort of door jab to keep the thing from locking or in this case, to make the node stable enough for ships to pass though. I think its more a matter of turning on or off instead.

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with all the talk of subspace, i have a question
the lucifier, bastion, and nerid all collosped the nodes while entering or exsting subspace, did the lucifier bastion and nerid only seal the entrances into subspace (leaving the route still there) or did the whole tunnel collaspe?
also what if one of those ships blew en route, not leaving or entering subspace, would that have collasped the tunnel?

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