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Shark
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Exclamation Recruiting

The Babylon project is now recruiting new team members, If you are interested, mail me at pkraag@uninet.ee or icq me, number is 124008931. I will give you a task to test your skill and if I'm satisfied with your work you're in. Check our homepage for more info.

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Triggy
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I take it that this recruitment is only for people who can model, texture, etc. and not script writers, level designers, etc.

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pera
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quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
I take it that this recruitment is only for people who can model, texture, etc. and not script writers, level designers, etc.


Probably, as I understand, the team can't have too many modellers/texturers.

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tomcat
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actually is not for modeler at all..if it was ..let me say that they will pass thru my hands

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CptWhite
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all i would like to say about this is it hasnt been sanctioned by me ..... if this is off your own back shark without consultation its wrong.....

for now im closing this topic and deleting the news post.


as far as im aware this isnt official and until its been made clear to me that it is (this is a council member thing, i shouldve been consulted, or at least some topic on the internal forum) i would say this offer is null people, i'll let you know if it is otherwse in due course, dont be offended shark, but we need to consult about things like this first and dont be going handing out access codes please.

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CptWhite
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Ok we are recruiting apparently , all shark said stands

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IceFire
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We're mostly looking for people who can texture....but we're looking for experience with texturing.

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pera
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quote:
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We're mostly looking for people who can texture....but we're looking for experience with texturing.


What?

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Exactly what I said. We're looking for people who can texture....but they should already have experience.

Don't know how it could be more clear. Perhaps it was a bit wordy but aside from that

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yet another texture slave..

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pera
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quote:
Originally posted by IceFire
Exactly what I said. We're looking for people who can texture....but they should already have experience.

Don't know how it could be more clear. Perhaps it was a bit wordy but aside from that



Oh you meant that _the person_ would have to have experience with texturing? Ok, now I see

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Alphakiller
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Yeah...since I've got plenty of texture, but I'm not an experienced texturer...yeah ...

:shrug:
eh, best I could do. G'way!

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Mr. Fury
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Take me! Take me!

Oh wait... I'm already team member...
/me wonders...

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Triggy
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Is the team still looking for level designers (i.e. checking through the submitted levels) or are they no longer required?

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In a month I get enough mission designer requests to fill a forklift. Unfortunately there are two problems with that.

Most mission "designers" haven't put together a mission before and do not make good missions. I'm glad that so many people want to help the team, but you shouldn't sign up to be a modeler if you haven't spent some time in Truespace to see if you can do it, you shouldn't be a texturer if you have no artistic talent....and you shouldn't be a mission designer if you've never tried it before.

Thats not to say you can't learn or that we couldn't teach you, but if you don't even know, how can we?

We've for the moment got enough mission designers. In time, we may need more.

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Slasher
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I'd trade my FRED2 capabilities for modelling/texturing/converting skills any day.

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Xaphod_x
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I joined the mod because I'm a competant university qualified computer game 3D modeller & texturer who loves babylon 5, and I find that working on the mod has helped me a great deal; the work I produce now is of a much higher standard than that I produced before.

If you're a good modeller at working in 3DSmax and can get hold of truespace 4.x, then its also possible to model and texture for the mod... though be warned - it takes a bit of time to learn how to model in such a way to create stable Freespace 2 models, as well as time to learn how to convert a 3DS model into a non-triangulated Truespace model.

Basically I'm suggesting that anyone with modelling experience outside Truespace do some experimenting before assuming that your Max/Maya/lightwave/Softimage/POV-Ray models will work in Freespace2 and asking to join.
If you have the necessary low-poly modelling skills, experiment with getting at least a 6 (not 12) poly cube into FS2. That's a start at least.

Another good idea is to get hold of Modview32 or similar and look at how TBP models are constructed - I'd use the Starfury or Hyperion as examples of ideal models; polygon counts are important things to look at - as is the fact that most TBP models use multi-sided polygons rather than triangles.

I shall be creating a tutorial with regards creating FS2 models in 3DSmax at some point in the future.

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quote:
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I shall be creating a tutorial with regards creating FS2 models in 3DSmax at some point in the future.


That'll be great! I've been meaning to try modelling for some time now. My brother is an animator and he does have a LEGAL copy of 3D Studio Max.
Yeah, if you do produce a tutorial that'll get me on my way.

Thanks Xaphod!

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Xaphod_x
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note - you still need a copy of Truespace I'm afraid..

In other words, I don't use Max because it's all I have, I use Max because I prefer it.

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I take it getting the trial is no good then? Normally you can use the program but can't save your work. Is that the case with Truespace?
I hear that the price of Truespace has gone up quite a bit recently.

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