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Posted by R128Thunder on 10-12-2000 06:30 PM:

Future of Freespace....

Well - we have the campaigns being made, mods in the making - and a few TC's knocking around, I'd like to know where you think the Freespace saga will be in one year...

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Posted by DarkHorse on 10-12-2000 07:11 PM:

absolutely nowhere is my guess. Don't worry, I just can't be bothered thinking about it :P


Posted by Ulysses777 on 10-12-2000 08:22 PM:

I have a question...

Interplay own the name of Freespace, but Volition own the game code, artwork and ship designs, so could Volition release a Freespace sequel under a different name?
(The first Freespace game was called Descent:Freespace, but over here (UK) it's called Conflict:Freespace). Could they do something like that (but without the Freespace name)?

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Posted by Jennings on 10-13-2000 12:18 AM:

Welcome to the Volition Watch BB (VWBB)!!

I don't think Volition could do that, because Interplay owns the intelectual rights to the game, meaning you can't copy the game in any way, shape or form. THQ, Volition's new and hopefully elite (l33t) publisher, will buy the rights from Interjerks, so that V can make a FS3.

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Posted by Fantomeye on 10-13-2000 12:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jennings:
Welcome to the Volition Watch BB (VWBB)!!

I don't think Volition could do that, because Interplay owns the intelectual rights to the game, meaning you can't copy the game in any way, shape or form. THQ, Volition's new and hopefully elite (l33t) publisher, will buy the rights from Interjerks, so that V can make a FS3.




h4w at j00, no eye para tu!!!

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Posted by Jennings on 10-13-2000 03:10 AM:

Quiet, insolent fool!

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Posted by Fantomeye on 10-13-2000 03:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jennings:
Quiet, insolent fool!




ah, he has it now, RUN! <hides behind trashcan from fear of Jennings>

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Posted by Shadow on 10-13-2000 04:22 AM:

I have a feeling the freespace comunity will just slowly die out. With one site after another closing down, once every week. The VBB FS2 forum start slowing down to the Tech support forum speed. We'll all forget about FS3. We will hear no other remarks from the developpers except that FS3 is scrap. And, the long legacy of FS will be dead. No more Campaigns, missions, online games, nothing. Even somesites will be torn down to make place for the new. And FS will be forgotten, for most of us.

Maybe not i a year but you get the idea.


Posted by R128Thunder on 10-13-2000 06:41 AM:

It's a bleak picture, but I'm forced to agree at this stage (unless they announce FS3, I imagine the community shifting into something new like Freelancer etc....)

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Posted by DarkHorse on 10-13-2000 06:49 AM:

Shadow: ...as is happening to Descent 1 and 2, especially D1. D2 has very few pages on the 'net about it now. And D1 has practically none.


Posted by Slanker on 10-13-2000 07:36 AM:

I already thought of something like this, so I decided to make a big project to keep FreeSpace 2 alive. You all know Counterstrike and all the other great mods saving Halflife from that fate, right? Well, I want to make a Star Wars total conversion. Look at my topic in this forum (I forgot the link).


Posted by Shadow on 10-13-2000 10:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by R128Thunder:
I imagine the community shifting into something new like Freelancer etc....)


Freelancer!?! Don't you mean Starlancer?

STARLANCER!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I do not want to live in a world where starlancer replaces FS.


Posted by Mad Bomber on 10-14-2000 12:41 AM:

FS2 should have replaced Starlancer.

Anyway, with 3 new sites going up (FSZone, Descentral, FS Station) and innumerable campaigns/MODs/MODed campaigns in the works, i think FS2 has at least a year and a half of life left in it. That's a minimum.

I'd say the longest it could hold out with any respectable amount of strength would be 3 years, maybe 3 yrs 4 months, unless a massive revival effort kicks in sometime in the middle.


Posted by Jennings on 10-14-2000 02:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Shadow:
I have a feeling the freespace comunity will just slowly die out. With one site after another closing down, once every week. The VBB FS2 forum start slowing down to the Tech support forum speed. We'll all forget about FS3. We will hear no other remarks from the developpers except that FS3 is scrap. And, the long legacy of FS will be dead. No more Campaigns, missions, online games, nothing. Even somesites will be torn down to make place for the new. And FS will be forgotten, for most of us.

Maybe not i a year but you get the idea.



Oh come on people!! FSW receives roughly 600,000 hits a month. Imagine that! GFS only got about 30k a month. We closed simply because we did not have a reliable server. Had we, we'd still be open. So, I closed GFS, and am giving my talents to VW. You are all losing interest because nothing new is happening. Volition created a great game, and we have an awesome community. When hell freezes over, this community will die.

There are still many sites and many people that are active. FS Zone will open soon, and Joey21 is making new campaigns. Ultimately, we decide if FS3 is made or not. Let the community die, don't expect it. Keep it alive, bug THQ, show you want it, then expect FS3. Hell, there are over 4,000 people on the VBB, isn't that VOICE enough?

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Posted by Ulysses777 on 10-14-2000 02:36 AM:

IMO, I believe that Interplay would be willing to sell the FS rights because not only did FS2 not sell as well as it should, but if Interplay were to make a FS3 themselves, they'd have to make it completely from scratch, because Volition own the copyrights on the game code, artwork, and I think the ship models as well, so I dont think they'd be willing to develop a sequel from scratch.

Unless...(shivers at this next idea)

Volition let Interplay use their code

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Posted by Razzle on 10-14-2000 02:54 AM:

Jennings put it very nicely. I agree with him. If there's no FS3, then I think the FS will eventually die out. Well said, Jennings

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Posted by R128Thunder on 10-14-2000 08:36 AM:

Jennings actually inspired me a bit there, enough to make me want to fly to Interplays offices and point a large gun at their CO's head untill they sold me the rights to FS, which I could then give to V

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Posted by Slanker on 10-14-2000 10:10 AM:

What most people aren´t aware of is the fact, that the community is concentrated on a few sites. See, there is no (absolutely no) German community of FS2 and I think there aren´t any other communites like this for FS2. If you take Halflfie for example, you can get over 200 German halflife sites, but not one German FS2 site. I´d start a German site, but there´s not enough interest. Even my RL friends don´t like FreeSpace 2...


Posted by Mad Bomber on 10-15-2000 04:17 PM:

Heh good point.... the thing is i dont know any german except for "guten tag", "ja", and "nein"

I'm pretty sure that's the case with most of the FS2 community too.

A german version of the site would be cool but if there is gonna be a german version, plz make an english one too.


Posted by IceFire on 10-15-2000 04:24 PM:

You can quote me on this one:

I was here during the first dawn and I will still be here when the sun goes down forever.


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