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Posted by Asprin on 02-18-2004 07:11 AM:

Blue Star completed

It seems working...

Please, test the Blue Star. I could to adapt it in game. Model working with HTL 01_20_2004 and I recomend to use 1024x768x32 resoultion. Screenshot and download are [URL=http://fstbp.narod.ru]here.[/URL]

Posted by -Norbert- on 02-18-2004 10:57 AM:

Very nice, but I thought the bluestar has no beam-weapons?

Posted by Asprin on 02-18-2004 11:09 AM:

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Very nice, but I thought the bluestar has no beam-weapons?

So few information about it, but I think if the Blue Star was developed to replace Nial, it must have beam weapons.

Posted by Mr. Fury on 02-18-2004 02:33 PM:

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Originally posted by Asprin
So few information about it, but I think if the Blue Star was developed to replace Nial, it must have beam weapons.

I don't quite agree on that. Bluestar is basically a miniature version of WhiteStar, designed to perform missions where only one or a few rangers are needed.
And as you know, WhiteStar does have both beam and pulse weapons. Beams are not necessarily better than pulses, it just depends on how well they have developed each tech.
Based on BlueStar's appearance, it looks like it has only the outer pulse weapons of the WhiteStar.

Howewer, this is only speculation at best.

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Posted by Sigma957 on 02-19-2004 12:13 AM:

Lookin good.

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Posted by Kazan on 02-19-2004 12:19 AM:

this guy should be working for us

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Posted by IPAndrews on 02-19-2004 09:11 AM:

Yes he probably should.

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Posted by Ashark on 02-19-2004 04:18 PM:

yes he should ... so youd get something done anytime soon

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Posted by IPAndrews on 02-20-2004 09:45 AM:

There you have it. Ashrak has spoken. So how about it Asprin? You could start be donating a <800p version of that Bluestar?

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 02-20-2004 02:37 PM:

Does it meet the quality of other TBP models?

Posted by IPAndrews on 02-20-2004 02:58 PM:

I think he's capable of producing one that does.

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Posted by redmenace7 on 02-20-2004 04:01 PM:

And with poly limits gone you can now use ships like his with higher poly limits.

Posted by Mr. Fury on 02-20-2004 04:05 PM:

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And with poly limits gone you can now use ships like his with higher poly limits.

At this point I want TBP to work with retail FS2. If we are going to have hi-poly models, then we should upgrade all the models which could be a little time consuming and whether it's practical is questionable.

I am all for fs2_open features which does not break TBP when using retail FS2.

Posted by redmenace7 on 02-20-2004 05:42 PM:

honestly until HTL is fully developed and bug squashed to an reasonable extent I wouldn't expect TBP to use it. However, I think it would be nice to have an addon VP with the release for stuff like shine maps and fighter beams ect. Does that make sense?

Posted by BabProj Team on 02-20-2004 05:51 PM:

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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
At this point I want TBP to work with retail FS2. If we are going to have hi-poly models, then we should upgrade all the models which could be a little time consuming and whether it's practical is questionable.

I am all for fs2_open features which does not break TBP when using retail FS2.

We already took TBP upto a much closer limit than normal FS2 models. So we're much further along the way than most in terms of details on a ship. Its probably not a necessity to redo everything...it just means that boundaries for other stuff should you guys choose to make more are lessened.

In my mind, the BlueStar only has a pair of Pulse cannons (or maybe 4 - I haven't looked closely enough). The BlueStar is meant as a scout and courier vessel. Its designed to be fast, agile, and powerful enough to defeat any opposition to its mission. What I've read about it suggests that individual or small groups of Rangers would use these to slip into places where a WhiteStar might attract more attention or wouldn't be needed. If it came into a situation where it needed to defend itself or even launch a strike against a midsized gunship or a fighter...then the BlueStar would be ideal.

Its not really a replacement for the Nial either. The Nial is standard Minbari military....the BlueStar is Rangers/ISA.

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Posted by Vorlone on 02-21-2004 02:51 PM:

The ship looks good! I like it very much, but I've noticed some bugs! The left engine isn't glowing and when you try to jump out of a sistem the jumpoint close itself before the ship can enter it!

Posted by Asprin on 02-25-2004 05:52 AM:

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The left engine isn't glowing

Well, download it again, I have corrected it bug.

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when you try to jump out of a sistem the jumpoint close itself before the ship can enter it!

Very strange I do not have such problem...I'll try to do something.

quote:
There you have it. Ashrak has spoken. So how about it Asprin? You could start be donating a <800p version of that Bluestar?

I'll finish it soon.

Posted by Asprin on 02-25-2004 08:01 AM:

Blue Star (Low polys)

Well, I did it with 405 polys, but in my opinion it is bosh! Screenshot and download are [URL=http://fstbp.narod.ru]here[/URL]

Posted by IPAndrews on 02-25-2004 09:36 AM:

405? Wow. That would be one of the lowest poly count models in The Babylon Project. Let's look at the poly counts of some of the existing models?

Centauri Sentri (14m length) 459p
Vorlon Fighter (30m length) 611p
EA Valkyrie (40m length) 577p
Drazi Sky Serpent (16m length) 463p
Bluestar (50m length) ?p

Compared to the rest, something in the region of 600-700p would seem to fit. Although, having looked at your 450p version, you've actually done a really good job of poly reducing it. Clearly you're a skilled 3d artist. If you can do a similarly good job and bring it in at 600-700p you'll have cracked it and I think we're looking at a TBP model. If you're quick enough it might even get in the patch.

Edit: You could use that 406p version as a LOD1.

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Posted by redmenace7 on 02-25-2004 01:29 PM:

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EA Valkyrie (40m length) 577p

there is no EA valkyrie? I klooked on the status pages and they were not there.

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