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Posted by ivanenski on 11-07-2001 10:47 PM:

what is the finest source on the 'Net for B5 ships?

Does anyone know what the best source of info on B5 ships is? I've been to several webpages looking up pics, drawings, and info on the Primus. Each page seems to have a different measurement for the same ship! Is it 800m, 1200m, or 1500m long?? I'm leaning towards 1200m-1500m. But anyways, does anyone know of a webpage that has ACCURATE info taken from the actual creators of B5 and not just someones imagination?

Posted by Antony on 11-08-2001 01:34 AM:

Try b5tech.com until now it is the only site i found with tons of information about ships and many more topics.

Posted by IceFire on 11-08-2001 04:53 AM:

B5tech.com is not 100% accurage. There really isn't such a thing. B5tech is good, but not always right.

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Posted by Londo Molari on 11-08-2001 05:00 AM:

http://www.tp2b.de/

and b5tech.com is pretty good too

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Posted by Sigma957 on 11-08-2001 05:57 AM:

And there is also [url=http://hyperspace.isnnews.net/]Hyperspace[/url]

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Posted by pera on 11-08-2001 09:29 AM:

My favourite page that no-one can understand says that it's 876 meters. I'm not sure where did they get that from, but in the episode "and now fo a word" it looks just about the same size as a Narn Q'Guan. So that is probably more close to it.

But definitely it's not over 1000 meters.

Posted by Triggy on 11-08-2001 10:49 AM:

I think B5Tech.com is best (aside from that Finnish site) but you need to take some of their "facts" with a pinch of salt. If you look at all of the available information, especially all of the videos then anything that still isn't clear is probably not clear for anyone, anywhere

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 11-08-2001 03:14 PM:

I believe that Primus is longer than 1000 meters when it's measured from bow to stern, including those long antennaes. But the base hull is less than 1000 meters.

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Posted by Triggy on 11-08-2001 03:15 PM:

Don't forget the long tail!

My calculations based upon ship to ship comparisons on the show:

Overall length: 1600m
Tail length: 540m
Antennae length: 240m
Main hull length: 820m

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Posted by Triggy on 11-08-2001 03:32 PM:

BTW, those calculations were in conjunction with the following ships at the following lengths:

Omega: 1700m
Nova: 1450m
Olympus: 450m
Starfury: 10m
Thunderbolt: 15m

Sharlin: 1600m
Tinashi: 900m
Nial: 20m

Primus: 1600m
Vorchan: 600m
Sentri: 10m

G'Quan: 1400m
T'Loth: 1050m
Frazi: 15m

Babylon 5: 8500m
Whitestar: 450m

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Posted by pera on 11-08-2001 04:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
BTW, those calculations were in conjunction with the following ships at the following lengths:

Omega: 1700m
Nova: 1450m
Olympus: 450m
Starfury: 10m
Thunderbolt: 15m

Sharlin: 1600m
Tinashi: 900m
Nial: 20m

Primus: 1600m
Vorchan: 600m
Sentri: 10m

G'Quan: 1400m
T'Loth: 1050m
Frazi: 15m

Babylon 5: 8500m
Whitestar: 450m

Looks nice, except for the Vorchan and Q'Quan which is nowhere near 1400. I have a truckload of those videos, and in one of them(I think the episode was the "acts of sacrifice")Centauris were attacking a Narn convoy, and we saw a Narn cruiser being attacked by a couple of Vorchans and centauri fighters. If you compare it to them, it could never be larger that 1000 meters.

And in the last season we saw that the Vorchan was only a bit longer(100 meters maybe) than a Whitestar, which was 470m only in one episode, so it must have been about 270-280 meters.

my guesses are:

Whitestar 270m
Vorchan 350-400m
Q'Quan 800-900m

And about the Whitestar. It was said that it was originilally that 270m, but changed to 470m because in some episode it had a docking bay with four Nials. Now I remember someone mentioning that a Nimitz class aircraft carrier is about 300 meters long, and it can carry dozens of fighters and bombers some even larger that a Nial, so I don't understand why a 270m Whitestar could't do four.

Posted by Prophet on 11-08-2001 04:16 PM:

Four Nials?! Isn't that just two (2 , II)?

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Posted by Triggy on 11-08-2001 04:22 PM:

Please, tell me the episodes with that you are referencing so I can confirm any of this and possibly revise my figures

I appreciate any help in trying to nail down ship sizes, especially with one or two inconsistencies in the show

Is the episode with the Vorchans and Whitestar that you are talking about 'Movements of Fire and Shadow'?

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Posted by pera on 11-08-2001 04:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Triggy
Please, tell me the episodes with that you are referencing so I can confirm any of this and possibly revise my figures

I appreciate any help in trying to nail down ship sizes, especially with one or two inconsistencies in the show

Is the episode with the Vorchans and Whitestar that you are talking about 'Movements of Fire and Shadow'?

Well let me see:
The Nials were seen aboard a Whitestar in "The Meditations on the abyss"

My comparison of the Vorchans size compared to the Whitestar was from the "Movements of the fire and shadow"

The Q'Quan/Centauri battle was in "Acts of sacrifice" I checked it out.

And one good episode where you can see the Whitestars size is the liberation of Proxima 3 in "No surrrender, no retreat", especially the scene where a Whitestar slams into the front hull of an Omega.

Posted by Triggy on 11-08-2001 04:37 PM:

In 'And Now For A Word' The G'Quan is longer than the combined length of the antennae and main hull of the Primus by about 30%. The Vorchan to be honest has been more difficult to identify it's length.

I've just taken a look at 'No Surrender, No Retreat' and you're right, the Whitestar can't be longer than 300m, more like 250m in proportion to the Omega. Also, docking sequences for Starfuries/Thunderbolts in the Omega confirm the width of the "head" of the ship as being 100-150m

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