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-- heh, wanna have a killer ship in the mod? ;) (https://volitionwatch.game-warden.com/vwbb/showthread.php?threadid=4559)

heh, wanna have a killer ship in the mod? ;)

check these out!

http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/Drawings/Others/artemisfinalcopy.gif

http://www.wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/Drawings/Others/Artemis2.jpg

"The Artemis was built to replace the Hyperion as Heavy Cruisers. The Artemis incorporates the latest technology, including artificial gravity, fusion beam cannons, and a gravitic drive engine. The ship has a much greater fighter complement due to her larger fighter bays. Hangar decks are located in the front and lower areas of the ship. "

Too bad this one ain't canon..

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hmmmmm....seems kinda wierd that the replacement for the Hyperion class cruiser is bigger than an Omega. Heck, it looks as large if not larger than a Warlock! I think if it were scaled down in size it would make a lot more sense as a cruiser. Besides, apparantly the Tempest is what's going to be in the mod and from what I've seen of it it's much more realistically scaled and designed as a cruiser-type ship meant to supplement the Warlock.

Yeah I don't like that Artemis 2, the original used in the Dilgar and Minbari Wars looked a lot better. And the Tempest was the ship used to replace the Hyperion.

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Well, as far as I know, cruisers were bigger then destroyers in the second world war..

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yeah, that's right.
I didn't understand from the beginning why they called the Hyperion a cruiser.

The Hyperion is/was a cruiser compared to the rest of the fleet (the Nova is a dreadnought - larger still), at least when it was built. The Omega "Destroyer" is actually a misnomer. It is a Cruiser but for some reason JMS desided to call it a destroyer. Hope that helps

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yeah, B5 is somewhat screwed up in it's labeling of ship types. Nowadays, and since WWI it's been like this, from smallest to largest:

Patrol/torpedo boat
Corvette
Frigate
Torpedo-boat destroyer (WWI only)
Destroyer
Light Cruiser
Heavy Cruiser
Escort carrier (WWII only)
Battlecruiser
Assualt carrier (modern Marine)
Battleship
Fleet Carrier

B5 it seems like this, at least for EarthForce:

Gunship
Corvette
Frigate
Heavy Cruiser
Dreadnought
Destroyer
Carrier (non-cannon)

ivaneski's basically got it, but I'd like to just make a couple modifications:

Patrol/torpedo boat (PT) - WWII only basically...
Corvette
Frigate (FF)
Guided Missile Frigate (FFG)
Torpedo-boat destroyer (very similar to a DE)
Destroyer Escort (DE)
Destroyer (DD)
Guided Missile Destroyer (DDG)
Light Cruiser (CL)
Heavy Cruiser (CA)
Monitor (cruiser hull w/ very few heavy guns, like IIRC the British Monitor had 2 15" cannon in a front turret and some light armament everywhere else, but nothing like a WWII heavy cruiser's armament of ~10 8-inch)
Battlecruiser (BB) [fast as a cruiser, armed like a battleship, armored like a tin can]
Battleship (BB)

Escort carrier (CVL) ("Light Carrier" basically)
Assualt carrier (modern Marine carrier, like the Wasp)
Fleet Carrier (CV)

...just adding a couple. Keep in mind this is a very bastardized list that tracks classes from the late 1800s to the 21st century ... so it's not perfectly accurate. Still, for a general reference, it's not so bad. I pulled carriers out seperately since it's not really fair to compare them size-wise to anything else, but consider an Essex fleet carrier (standard fleet carrier for the USN in mid/late WWII) was about the size of a battleship, and the Nimitzes are the biggest ship in the USN at present...Escort Carriers are like medium-large freighters, I guess like small-battlecruiser size hulls...something like that.

And yeah, the () things indicate the USN naming designation, when applicable (yeah so I can't remember what they call corvettes. Shadddddddddddup. )

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Not to be mean, but I've seen a LOT of non-canon ship designs and apart from the ones designed by Lars/Hyperspace (Monsoon, Triton, Tempest) everything else is quite ugly.

So as the team has said before, dont worry about these ships till the first 5 canon-ship releases are done. And that is far away.

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That design doesn't look good at all.
Tempest is half-canon, and it is meant to replace old Hyperion/Midwinter cruisers. Tempest's level of technology is same as Warlocks. Tempest is not much bigger than Hyperion, but thanks to newest tech, even a ship of this size can have some serious firepower.

Following pics aren't the best, but design is still good.
http://www.dd3d.org/galleries/babylon5/fabio4.jpg
http://www.dd3d.org/galleries/babylon5/fabio10.jpg

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I love the Tempest

Escort Carriers were built only by the US during WW2 (as far as I know) and they used the base hulls of smaller battlecruisers. Because the hulls were not suited to carrier operations, most escort carriers listed as much as 10 degrees to the side.

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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
That design doesn't look good at all.
Tempest is half-canon, and it is meant to replace old Hyperion/Midwinter cruisers. Tempest's level of technology is same as Warlocks. Tempest is not much bigger than Hyperion, but thanks to newest tech, even a ship of this size can have some serious firepower.

Following pics aren't the best, but design is still good.
http://www.dd3d.org/galleries/babylon5/fabio4.jpg
http://www.dd3d.org/galleries/babylon5/fabio10.jpg

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As stated in the first post in this thread, the Tempest was designed to replace the Hyperion as a type of heavy cruiser to support the main capital ships. Therefore it follows that it's design was based upon the Hyperion - taking advantage of a generally sound design, just out of date.

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I am SO jealous that I didint design or model the tempest... love that ship

and youre right, those pictures dont do the mesh justice

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Well, I think the Artemis looks nice, but opinions differ.. ow wel..

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It's "bigger and badder" syndrome - people don't want to make a small, powerful, but not overwhelming ship - they model gigantic planet-killers.

I personally like "small" attack ships like the Tempest if they LOOK mean. And the Tempest looks mean. I like

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I have to agree. I'm getting pretty sick of the bigger is better phenomenon. Its good to a point, then it stops being interesting.

The Tempest is a great little ship. Its well designed, it fits well with EA design philosophy, it draws from both the Hyperion and the Warlock, and its a great Hyperion/Midwinter replacement.

Its one of those non-canon designs that will make it into the MOD.

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