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Posted by Guardian on 03-30-2001 09:18 PM:

Introducing the GTF Phoenix!

Thanx to Max Sterling, Without Remorse will feature the new GTVA fighter known as the GTF Phoenix.

The Phoenix has a new design that makes it a powerful ship in a fight. The new colors that you see are part of the GTVA's attempt to get more recruits. Since the Capella tradgety, the GTVA has been hard pressed for new recruits.

This design just may change that.

Check it out at the [url="http://www.3dap.com/hlp/without/terranfighter.htm"]GTF Phoenix page of the Without Remorse website[/url]



Again I say thank you to Max Sterling


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Posted by Snipes on 03-30-2001 09:45 PM:

Wow, that is a completely original idea!
Me likes.

But is it hard to hit targets with the lasers?


Posted by Ace on 03-31-2001 12:31 AM:

Pretty colors won't attract recruits.

Work out a plot reason that it's a cheap to manufactuer ship and pilots literally get strapped into them...

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Posted by Imperiator on 03-31-2001 12:42 AM:

I reckon that its a really cool design but itlacking something........i can't put my finger on it.Maybe that ring around it put me off a little.

What is its top speed?
i bet those rings make it easy to hit!


Posted by KillMeNow on 03-31-2001 01:34 AM:

has it occured to anyone that most likely when you shot at something with this one the shots will go aroudn eh hsip and probally not hit - this strikes me as not the greatest idea ever


Posted by Max Sterling on 03-31-2001 05:20 AM:

Ya'll who are critics:

shut up and make your own ship.



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Posted by Shrike on 03-31-2001 05:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Max Sterling:
shut up and make your own ship.


Hear hear


Posted by Jabu on 03-31-2001 12:13 PM:

Allow this to use Mekhus.

Damn... you can't really miss with 12 guns firing that fast. Just spray the general area


Posted by Imperiator on 03-31-2001 03:34 PM:

when will this baby be available for download??

p.s wouldn't it be an easy-to-hit target?


Posted by Imperiator on 03-31-2001 03:35 PM:

heh heh.imaging that beast with maxim and kayser as primaries.

I hope its primary weapon generators are good.


Posted by Max Sterling on 03-31-2001 05:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Imperiator:
when will this baby be available for download??

p.s wouldn't it be an easy-to-hit target?




Its not really any bigger than an Ares... plus you are not able to load kaysers or maxims on it because it cant support that much power.



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Posted by IceFire on 03-31-2001 05:44 PM:

I could see a Pegasus or Perseus managing to fit through the majority of its fire...perhaps.

Like with a WC3 Arrow and the forward cannons of the Paktahn.


Posted by Jabu on 03-31-2001 09:06 PM:

That's probably better as a deterrant fighter, good for spraying the area with fire, or taking out small capships and bombers, which are bigger targets.


Posted by Max Sterling on 03-31-2001 10:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by IceFire:
I could see a Pegasus or Perseus managing to fit through the majority of its fire...perhaps.

Like with a WC3 Arrow and the forward cannons of the Paktahn.



Works just fine when I fly it. Remember the guns do converge... and if you just aim PART of the ring at a ship you will get as many hits as a normal fighter...



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Posted by Guardian on 03-31-2001 11:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ace:
Pretty colors won't attract recruits.

Work out a plot reason that it's a cheap to manufactuer ship and pilots literally get strapped into them...





That is an idea . . .


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Posted by Charger on 04-01-2001 12:46 PM:

i personally could see this fighter being used as a long range patrol ship, sinse it looks to be a little on the large side with a lot of hull space, if you made it a dark color you would have to perfect ship for those long range patrols. it certainly has the firepower to take on all comers up to and includinag small warships with ease. but personally, i think the flames look a little silly on a GTVA ship. now a pirate ship, that would work perfectly on one of those.


Posted by DarkHorse on 04-02-2001 09:10 PM:

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

That Phoenix does look a little like a ferris wheel, if you ask me.


Posted by Max Sterling on 04-02-2001 09:30 PM:

Obviously people have trouble thinking out of the box for an unconventional design.

Who wants to make another boring FS2 looking ship? Not me. Hehe. These things look cool in the game engine. And they are no bigger than a Herc 2.



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Posted by KillMeNow on 04-02-2001 11:04 PM:

its a cool ships i just had concerns about being able to hit stuff but if its not a probelms then its a great ship - although i dont think the paint job is right not for a military oranisation unless its the display team

hey theres a thought is there any way of putting missiles trails onto a fighter? like smoke trails for displays - not much use i know but it would look quite cool


Posted by Max Sterling on 04-02-2001 11:23 PM:

Dunno. Anyway, I reskinned it, if you're interested.
[url="http://robotechlan.com/freespace2/pxcolor.jpg"]http://robotechlan.com/freespace2/pxcolor.jpg[/url]

You can download it from the link at the VBB now. And HLP will have it soon.



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