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Posted by Space Spambot on 01-18-2001 04:08 PM:

The Evil VW

A yes, so I thought for a long time....

Much like the borg I saw VW consuming, altering, essentialy perverting my fav FS sites into Hosted ones. Then Ground Freespace closed and for me it was decided! VW was Evil and trying to steal all the fans etc. Now I realize that wasnt and isnt true. You did perhaps merger and keep the community alive instead. So good for you, and I apologise for my hasty opinion.
Still I must say.
You have crappy banners.

:P

"Spambot strikes again"
Spambot => First acolyte of the infamous RN-Red5


Posted by Jennings on 01-18-2001 09:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Space Spambot:
A yes, so I thought for a long time....

Much like the borg I saw VW consuming, altering, essentialy perverting my fav FS sites into Hosted ones. Then Ground Freespace closed and for me it was decided! VW was Evil and trying to steal all the fans etc. Now I realize that wasnt and isnt true. You did perhaps merger and keep the community alive instead. So good for you, and I apologise for my hasty opinion.
Still I must say.
You have crappy banners.



I assure you, and everyone, VW is by no means trying to steal anything from anyone. I had to close Ground FreeSpace, Stomped was dropping us, and a bunch of other sites. And now with C|net dropping Stomped, the rest of their hosted sites will probably be dropped as well.

Volition Watch has kept, and is keeping, this community nice and strong

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Posted by R128 Darklord on 01-18-2001 09:24 PM:

And yay! to them for it too!

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Posted by IceFire on 01-18-2001 09:31 PM:

Finally, some understanding.


Posted by Snipes on 01-18-2001 10:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Space Spambot:
A yes, so I thought for a long time....

Much like the borg I saw VW consuming, altering, essentialy perverting my fav FS sites into Hosted ones. Then Ground Freespace closed and for me it was decided! VW was Evil and trying to steal all the fans etc. Now I realize that wasnt and isnt true. You did perhaps merger and keep the community alive instead. So good for you, and I apologise for my hasty opinion.
Still I must say.
You have crappy banners.

:P

"Spambot strikes again"
Spambot => First acolyte of the infamous RN-Red5




Forgive me, but you are an idiot sometimes...

Me too, but of your 9 posts, 6 of them were to piss off Disaster, and 1 was to praise VW...

I don't get it.

But I probably never will.

Question for Jennings:

Why not have Groundfs hosted by VW?

They have infinite webspace right?


Posted by Jennings on 01-18-2001 11:13 PM:

That question is just too dumb to answer.

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Posted by Fantomeye on 01-18-2001 11:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jennings:
That question is just too dumb to answer.



LOL, I agree. Think about what GFS was, and what VW/FSw is.


Posted by Snipes on 01-18-2001 11:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fantomeye:
LOL, I agree. Think about what GFS was, and what VW/FSw is.


No, no, I mean... Um... damn.

Just to be like the news for hosted sites or MOD Releases or something...

You guys have no will to create seriously...


Posted by Fantomeye on 01-18-2001 11:49 PM:

Well then, that would be changing the role of GFS. We were a community news site, much like what FSw and VW are now. You should have said in your post about GFS being hosted by VW that we would cover Mods, hosted site news, etc. As clearly stated in the hosted section, it says that FSw doesnt want a community news site - why would that hold any different for GFS?


Posted by Space Spambot on 01-19-2001 12:02 AM:

Shrike I resent your comment.

@...you are an idiot sometimes"

On the contary, I am an idiot all the time.

Lucky for you I persuaded Epock not too pay the "League of Mercinary Hackers" to destroy VW for him. You should thank me Jennings your a bit slow I must say :P



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Posted by Snipes on 01-19-2001 12:03 AM:

That's true, And theres no such thing as a dumb quetion, just unthought out ones


Posted by Snipes on 01-19-2001 12:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Space Spambot:
Shrike I resent your comment.

@...you are an idiot sometimes"

On the contary, I am an idiot all the time.

Lucky for you I persuaded Epock not too pay the "League of Mercinary Hackers" to destroy VW for him. You should thank me Jennings your a bit slow I must say :P




Shrike didn't say it, I did.


Posted by Space Spambot on 01-19-2001 12:11 AM:

Sorry Snipes errr typo ???

Im new here, im alowed to make mistakes. I meant to insult you ok


Posted by Snipes on 01-19-2001 12:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Space Spambot:

Lucky for you I persuaded Epock not too pay the "League of Mercinary Hackers" to destroy VW for him.




What does that mean?


Posted by Ace on 01-19-2001 12:34 AM:

*cough* *cough*

Jennings was just saying the official line, what he really meant to say is that...

*is strangled by Jennings*

Then again... yes... it is our goal to make the FS community as happy and VWified... umm as Volitionified as possible! Whee!

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Posted by Jennings on 01-19-2001 02:10 AM:

Okay, some of you kinda lost me...Snipes, you, of all people, should not be lecturing us on "not having will to create anything seriously." Have you suddenly gone from a jokster on this board to a serious person? And don't ever tell anyone here they don't have will to create things seriously. What the hell do you think Volition Watch is? Do you think IceFire and WildWolf made it overnight? Do you think I made GFS overnight? Believe me, if I didn't have to close my site, I wouldn't have.

And we need to clear something else up right now. GFS and VW were not competitors. IceFire by no means wanted GFS to close. Both sites often exchanged info. Remember the Easter Egg hunt that DC and GFS did together? All of the larger FS sites were never, ever, against eachother. Having friendly competition can only benefit everyone, and that is why neither me nor Ice wanted to see GFS close. But it had to, there was simply no choice.

So what am I going to do now? Why not put my skills to good use, and keep the community I helped build strong? So Ice and I talked, and he asked his staff, and Fantom and I came here. I am here now helping to keep the Volition community strong, along with everyone else. My interests are always for the community.

So yes Snipes, I take offence to you saying that we can't do anything, and many other things you have said, but I have choosen to ignore.

And feel free to say whatever you want back to me Snipes (don't be vulgar), I'm not going to ban you for calling me names.

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Posted by IceFire on 01-19-2001 03:16 AM:

Just to set the history books straight.

WildWolf and myself had no intention in the beginning of bringing the staffs of either Descent Chronicles nor Ground FreeSpace into Volition Watch.

Basically, Gamestats was falling apart and Remora and Orange contacted WildWolf and myself to try and see if they could get in on it. We talked for a good hour at least and spent several days talking it over before we did. I didn't want to see DC die but it happened and we made the best of it.

Ground FreeSpace got unplugged by Stomped and Jennings did quite a bit to try and find a new host. Heck, I did some searching for a new host myself. Unfortunately, this didn't work the best way and again, we made the best of it and integrated GFS into VWatch as well.

Despite popular belief and conspiracy theorists, we didn't buy anyone out and we didn't try to establish a stranglehold on the community. I know there were other FreeSpace and Volition sites attempting to establish themselves in the last few months but I haven't heard much from them recently. I encouraged those people to do their best and bring a site online.

So, despite our apparent evilness and whatnot, we've really tried to be as good to the community as possible.

Regardless of wether you believe me or not, the truth will attend to itself.


Posted by Snipes on 01-19-2001 03:22 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jennings:

So yes Snipes, I take offence to you saying that we can't do anything, and many other things you have said, but I have choosen to ignore.

And feel free to say whatever you want back to me Snipes (don't be vulgar), I'm not going to ban you for calling me names.




No, no, you've got it wrong, I am still trying to put sarcasm in the appropriate areas, seeing as that was what really (probably) made me annoying...

You guys are extremely creative. I mean that honestly. And if you want, I will spread the word (more) of VWatch. I have always referred people to this site, even if they didn't have this game to find out everything about it. Because this is the most comprehensive FS site on the web. Even Volition doesn't have what you have here.

I didn't mean for you to take offense to it, and If you wish to accept, I appologize for calling you uncreative, all of you (except Dynamo, he called me a retard...
Even though he's more of a than Chucker.. )

[Edit: I see the Hippy code no longer works... Darn!]



[This message has been edited by Snipes (edited 01-18-2001).]


Posted by Shrike on 01-19-2001 04:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Space Spambot:
Im new here, im alowed to make mistakes. I meant to insult you ok


If I'm going to get insulted, I'd at least like to have caused the original insult here..........


Posted by Remora on 01-19-2001 06:23 AM:

Uhm ... moving speech ... I think

Still, I must ask ... what did you do to come to this realization, and are you a little slow? hahaha


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