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Posted by IceFire on 06-21-2001 05:54 PM:

Because everyone keeps asking

Okay, I've been asked I don't know how many countless times when BlackWater Operations will be finished. So in one post I will answer all of your questions with the only appropriate answer, a question.

When do you think a campaign of this size and magnitude would be realistically finished?

There are so many factors to count that I cannot list them all on this thread. Lets go over the basics.

Volume - There is an enormous amount of volume to this campaign. We're talking about 40 missions in total I believe. That is of course divided between the two separate paths and different loop missions that you can take. There are innumerable characters, subplots, and bits of ideas that are played out through all of these missions. We've thought out the motives of each side and the people involved, we've discussed at length alot of the issues to be confronted.

Quality - Each mission we've decided should strive for a 4.5 or 5 star rating on the Archives review system if they were to be rated. That means balancing and specing out each mission and running through them time and time again. Adding messages, developing the characters, writing briefings, and doing alot of tweaking so that things work the way they should. Then there is the issue of MODs. We've created innumberable weapons and added new ships to the mix. This requires alot of testing and balancing to make those ships behave the way they should.

Balance - A whole other aspect. Each mission and MOD has to be balanced (not evened out so that they are weak, just balanced so that they don't display an undue strength when it shouldn't be there). Our missions shouldn't be impossible to complete, but they shouldn't be a cake walk either.

So thats some of the basics and I think I wrapped everything up into a neat little package.

The team is a busy group of people. Each are involved with alot of different interests outside of the computer/internet/game world that this campaign is being developed for. Our time is limited and we make the best use of it as we can. We're not working on this campaign 24/7 but we do when we can.

Now with all of that being said, I don't want this to sound like a guilt trip or anything at all really. I want it to be an eye opener and an educator. The stuff we go through is nothing. Game developers like Volition go through what we do times ten thousand.

BlackWater Operations will be finished, and it will be finished when we think its ready to go. Now is not that time, now is not close to that time, but when that time arrives, we will release it and we will work to ensure that even after release, it continues to live upto the expectations as best we can match them.

As for progress, we keep making it. Now that most of the MODs are in place and require only tweaking we've really hit the mission design and things are moving along as expected. We know that this is an anticipated campaign, but some of you are going to have to be paitent for a while longer yet. What we really love is speculation, constructive suggestions, and issues presented on this board. We've seen lots of that already and I say keep it up. But don't lose sight of what is going on and what has to be done.

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Posted by RKIF-DragonClaw on 06-21-2001 06:50 PM:

Give it up fooooorrrr IIIICCCEEEFFFFIIIREEEE!!!!

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Posted by Raven on 06-21-2001 09:07 PM:

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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Give it up fooooorrrr IIIICCCEEEFFFFIIIREEEE!!!!

*CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP*

Nice going Icey!

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Posted by sandwich on 06-21-2001 10:18 PM:

Preach it, brutha'!

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Posted by RKIF-DragonClaw on 06-21-2001 10:59 PM:

Hmm I wonder when I get a new title... [/HINT]

Hmm that was kinda off topic but o well

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Posted by Shrike on 06-21-2001 11:03 PM:

*kicks back and waits*

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Posted by Charger on 06-22-2001 06:57 AM:

hoorah! icefire.

i await your campaign with much anticipation.

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Posted by Imperiator on 06-22-2001 09:45 AM:

WE SHOULD BE AMSAHMED OF OURSELVES! PUTTING ALL THOSE MEAN AND NASTY DEMANDS ON ICEFIRE AND HIS FRIENDS!!!!!

well icefire,if you want to get this campaign finished sooner rather than later,i can help you.I am ALWAYS at home,i have spare time on my hands ALL the time(i mean i could work on this campaign 24/7).IM SERIOUS!!!!

if you want my help,e-mail me.by the sounds of things,you guys are sick of the campaign and just want to get it finished,but also want it to be the best but dont have the time for it.

I HAVE TIME FOR YOUR CAMPAIGN.I CAN WORK ON IT 24/7

Posted by Snipes on 06-22-2001 02:01 PM:

Oh just shut up... you've caused enough ranting for one week...

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Posted by RKIF-DragonClaw on 06-22-2001 04:50 PM:

Blast it Imp you already got your answer to that on the other thread.... NO

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Posted by IceFire on 06-22-2001 04:56 PM:

Quality over quantity. That applies to time as well.

Posted by Snipes on 06-22-2001 05:37 PM:

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Originally posted by IceFire
Quality over quantity

That's what I want... besides, too many MODs takes away from the story.

Posted by RKIF-DragonClaw on 06-22-2001 05:51 PM:

I think its fun to annoy snipes

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Posted by Snipes on 06-22-2001 05:58 PM:

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Posted by RKIF-DragonClaw on 06-22-2001 06:01 PM:

*crams Snipes*

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Posted by Snipes on 06-22-2001 06:05 PM:

I hope your not interested in doing that, unless you're a

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Posted by RKIF-DragonClaw on 06-22-2001 06:28 PM:

**** YOU!

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Posted by Snipes on 06-22-2001 06:43 PM:

You want to eh? I knew you were

lmao

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Posted by RKIF-DragonClaw on 06-22-2001 06:45 PM:

Unbelievable....

I'm not

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Posted by Raven on 06-22-2001 09:01 PM:

We will never know the truth about that..........

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