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Posted by Shrike on 04-26-2002 04:41 AM:

Whee! Dave - burst turrets

Is there an easy way to fix 'swarm' weapons so they can fire like normal turrets? Perhaps make a new tag called 'burst' that's functionally similar but is designed for primaries?

One of the things I've been after for the longest time is burst-firing turret guns. It's been a tricky subject, and they don't work for one-part turrets, and are pretty iffy even with two-parters. (they don't shoot AT the target) It seems to be a problem with not recognizing that the turret actually has cone of fire, instead they simply fire on the normal. Which is a bummer.

Anyhow, would this be possible-easy or possible-hard?

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Posted by Shrike on 04-26-2002 04:41 AM:

Whee! Dave - burst turrets

Is there an easy way to fix 'swarm' weapons so they can fire like normal turrets? Perhaps make a new tag called 'burst' that's functionally similar but is designed for primaries?

One of the things I've been after for the longest time is burst-firing turret guns. It's been a tricky subject, and they don't work for one-part turrets, and are pretty iffy even with two-parters. (they don't shoot AT the target) It seems to be a problem with not recognizing that the turret actually has cone of fire, instead they simply fire on the normal. Which is a bummer.

Anyhow, would this be possible-easy or possible-hard?

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Posted by daveb on 04-26-2002 04:43 AM:

Er. I'd have to go with possible-i-dunno. Probably leaning towards possible-tricky. The details of all that stuff are pretty hazy at the moment.


Posted by daveb on 04-26-2002 04:43 AM:

Er. I'd have to go with possible-i-dunno. Probably leaning towards possible-tricky. The details of all that stuff are pretty hazy at the moment.


Posted by Shrike on 04-26-2002 04:45 AM:

Nuts. Well, I'd better go learn C/C++ then.

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Posted by Shrike on 04-26-2002 04:45 AM:

Nuts. Well, I'd better go learn C/C++ then.

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Posted by ltnarol on 04-26-2002 04:46 AM:

on a similar note, what about a tag that tells a turret to fire the weapon as fast as it can instead of one bolt at a time? Vadar created a weapon for me that was designed to look like modern day heavy machinegun fire, but the turrets that are supposed to fire it in streams instead fire it one shot at a time.

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Posted by aldo_14 on 04-26-2002 10:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ltnarol
on a similar note, what about a tag that tells a turret to fire the weapon as fast as it can instead of one bolt at a time? Vadar created a weapon for me that was designed to look like modern day heavy machinegun fire, but the turrets that are supposed to fire it in streams instead fire it one shot at a time.


?

just up the speed and ramp down the fire delay.... unless you mean a proper burst fire (like a submachine gun), only firing in bursts of 3 or 4.

Personally, i'd like to look at an optional warm-up glow for laser weapons.... the pulse beam on the SOCv Rapier isn't as neat looking as a I had hoped

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Posted by aldo_14 on 04-26-2002 10:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ltnarol
on a similar note, what about a tag that tells a turret to fire the weapon as fast as it can instead of one bolt at a time? Vadar created a weapon for me that was designed to look like modern day heavy machinegun fire, but the turrets that are supposed to fire it in streams instead fire it one shot at a time.


?

just up the speed and ramp down the fire delay.... unless you mean a proper burst fire (like a submachine gun), only firing in bursts of 3 or 4.

Personally, i'd like to look at an optional warm-up glow for laser weapons.... the pulse beam on the SOCv Rapier isn't as neat looking as a I had hoped

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Posted by Eternal One on 04-26-2002 10:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aldo_14
...Personally, i'd like to look at an optional warm-up glow for laser weapons.... the pulse beam on the SOCv Rapier isn't as neat looking as a I had hoped


You probably mean muzzle flashes ala flak guns? Those are pretty high in my list too.


Posted by Eternal One on 04-26-2002 10:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aldo_14
...Personally, i'd like to look at an optional warm-up glow for laser weapons.... the pulse beam on the SOCv Rapier isn't as neat looking as a I had hoped


You probably mean muzzle flashes ala flak guns? Those are pretty high in my list too.


Posted by Shrike on 04-26-2002 11:02 AM:

You can make new muzzle flashes you know.... making an animated glow instead of an explosion would be the hard/long part.

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Posted by ltnarol on 04-26-2002 12:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by aldo_14


?

just up the speed and ramp down the fire delay.... unless you mean a proper burst fire (like a submachine gun), only firing in bursts of 3 or 4.

Personally, i'd like to look at an optional warm-up glow for laser weapons.... the pulse beam on the SOCv Rapier isn't as neat looking as a I had hoped

lol, i've gotten the fire delay as low as .01 already, it still only fires one shot at a time (believe me, the delay was the first thing i checked before i tested it)

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Posted by ltnarol on 04-26-2002 12:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by aldo_14


?

just up the speed and ramp down the fire delay.... unless you mean a proper burst fire (like a submachine gun), only firing in bursts of 3 or 4.

Personally, i'd like to look at an optional warm-up glow for laser weapons.... the pulse beam on the SOCv Rapier isn't as neat looking as a I had hoped

lol, i've gotten the fire delay as low as .01 already, it still only fires one shot at a time (believe me, the delay was the first thing i checked before i tested it)

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Posted by aldo_14 on 04-26-2002 01:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ltnarol
lol, i've gotten the fire delay as low as .01 already, it still only fires one shot at a time (believe me, the delay was the first thing i checked before i tested it)


I set the Nightmare fighters to a 0.1 delay - they fire a constant stream of laser death.....maybe i misunderstood what you wanted?

Oh, and what i was trying to do with the pulse thing was for a weapon that was basically a very short barrage beam - i.e. charge, fire a pulse, charge, etc. Except the actual beam can't be altered to fire as if it were a laser. It's still pretty neat, though.

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Posted by aldo_14 on 04-26-2002 01:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ltnarol
lol, i've gotten the fire delay as low as .01 already, it still only fires one shot at a time (believe me, the delay was the first thing i checked before i tested it)


I set the Nightmare fighters to a 0.1 delay - they fire a constant stream of laser death.....maybe i misunderstood what you wanted?

Oh, and what i was trying to do with the pulse thing was for a weapon that was basically a very short barrage beam - i.e. charge, fire a pulse, charge, etc. Except the actual beam can't be altered to fire as if it were a laser. It's still pretty neat, though.

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Posted by Eternal One on 04-26-2002 01:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Shrike
You can make new muzzle flashes you know.... making an animated glow instead of an explosion would be the hard/long part.


Umm...no you can't. They're only used in flak guns. I want the same ability to all weapons.


Posted by Eternal One on 04-26-2002 01:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Shrike
You can make new muzzle flashes you know.... making an animated glow instead of an explosion would be the hard/long part.


Umm...no you can't. They're only used in flak guns. I want the same ability to all weapons.


Posted by BabProj Team on 04-26-2002 01:32 PM:

Looking at B5 CGI, they have flashes for everything. Beams, pulses, and rubber duckys (probably not that last one).

I want to be able to do that.

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Posted by IceFire on 04-26-2002 01:32 PM:

Looking at B5 CGI, they have flashes for everything. Beams, pulses, and rubber duckys (probably not that last one).

I want to be able to do that.

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