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Posted by FSF Ashrak on 10-10-2001 07:37 PM:

the beams

about the beams on a player flyable ship just put them a secondary weapons with 10 sec reload time then it would be nice and the lasers as prims whatr u day to that ??

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Posted by Jabu on 10-10-2001 07:53 PM:

Beams? What, just make trailed missile?

Doesn't always end up looking too good.

Posted by FSF Ashrak on 10-10-2001 07:54 PM:

what?

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Posted by Jabu on 10-10-2001 07:56 PM:

I don't see how you propose actually making the beam effect.

Posted by Londo Molari on 10-10-2001 07:58 PM:

Ashrak, FS2 does not allow beam wrapons on playable ships

so the team had to use elongated bolts of primary guns

it'll be fun, trust me

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Posted by Mr. Fury on 10-10-2001 08:01 PM:

Learn.

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Posted by hansioux on 10-10-2001 08:21 PM:

This topic have been discussed for many times....

The end result, the missile trail doesn't look like beams....

Since there no way to get to the original coding,
this dream died long time ago in the mod team
with some trial and error, or just errors....

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Posted by ApaBaBooN on 10-10-2001 08:22 PM:

Someone should update the faq and the newcomers should read it

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Posted by IceFire on 10-10-2001 08:25 PM:

While risking to sound awefully pretentious...I'd say you do some research before you lift your wings and fly straight into a wall.

Beams are not primary nor secondary weapons (although if you want to talk ship table parser they are Primary Turrets) and we can't just change their properties.

I'll repeat the age old mantra of this MOD. "If you didn't see it in FreeSpace 2, we can't do it."

Its true completely and totally. All that were doing can be done in FreeSpace 2. We've just gone and done it. That applies to ambient lighting and that applies to beam weapons. We have the same freedoms and the same restrictions that the FreeSpace 2 team had (aside from the programmers who can apparently make just about anything happen).

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Posted by FSF Ashrak on 10-10-2001 08:43 PM:

well you see the targeting laser in fs2 makes a beem like the blue anti fighter beam from a fenris targeting laser and if you add damage to targeting laser you have you'r self a beam weapon so if you don't belive me download a trainer for fs2 that gives the ability to change weapons in fs2 and put one of the primaries as a targeting laser and you have your self a visible beam effect

trust me done it before

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Posted by A2597 on 10-10-2001 09:10 PM:

ENOUGH WITH THE QUESTIONS ABOUT BEAM WEAPONS ON PILOTABLE SHIPS!!!!

This has been picked though at EVERY SINGLE ANGLE!!!

The Targeting laser does NOT work for that. There is NO ASPECT of making lasers for fighters that they HAVE NOT TRIED, OK?

wait...why am I hearing an echo when I speak in your general direction?

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Posted by The Claw on 10-10-2001 09:22 PM:

Look, there is NO way to do fighter beams, apart from the missile-trail version which a) Doesn't always look good and b) will not reduce power even when it is a primary.
The Targetting Beam is a beam, yes... but it will only ever fire from one point, will never drain the energy from your weapons systems and you won't get creditted with the kills.
And why do you want it to do damage anyways? It's role as the SSM is far more than sufficient

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Posted by IceFire on 10-10-2001 09:42 PM:

After 2 years of telling people....we might finally hammer this concept in.

Posted by ivanenski on 10-10-2001 10:18 PM:

I do believe Freespace 2 allows beam on player fighters, it's just tricky to do. That Vorlon fighter that some guy did awhile ago I put a beam on it. I think you havta go into the weapons table, copy the targeting laser, then tinker with it's colors, size, and damage. I don't think it can have a sound or a warmup time but for awhile I also have Seraphim bombers with standard Shivan AAA beams. It makes for quite a bit more challenging kills!

Posted by Snipes on 10-10-2001 10:48 PM:

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Originally posted by IceFire
I'll repeat the age old mantra of this MOD. "If you didn't see it in FreeSpace 2, we can't do it."

Its true completely and totally.

Not completely, we (I) did put flak and AAAf/sgreen on a bomber... that wasn't in game

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Posted by Londo Molari on 10-10-2001 10:51 PM:

OH MY GOD

ivanenski, have you heard a WORD they have said?!?!!

Posted by ProvostQ on 10-10-2001 11:42 PM:

Although it is rather irrelevant now, there indeed was a mod that came out on the FS moding archives that featured beam weaponry on player ships.

However, I will assume that the good folks on TBP know about this and have come to the conclusion that it won't fit the model that they need..[?]

BTW, Londo, it is good to see you again. I take it this is where you've been hanging out for a while now?

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Posted by ProvostQ on 10-10-2001 11:44 PM:

Negate the above.

[smacks self]

I'd say the sleep deprviation is having an effect..

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Posted by Alikchi on 10-10-2001 11:49 PM:

I would post on this forum, but you have newbies enough.

Posted by Londo Molari on 10-10-2001 11:54 PM:

hey ProvostQ! how's SB been?

yeah, I moved from movies to modding related 3D

good to see a familiar face.

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